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Video: Ted Cruz Was Talking About a Wall YEARS Before Trump
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Posted on 02/07/2016 8:45:29 PM PST by SoConPubbie

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To: bigbob

He’s in the US Senate, where’s the bill to build a wall?

Doesn’t matter anyway, Trump OWNS The Wall. No Trump owns some buildings. When he is not trying to bulldoze some old lady’s house for a parking lot


101 posted on 02/07/2016 10:37:10 PM PST by tallyhoe
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To: WTFOVR

I know you now think the Koch bop ethers are evil, just like Harry Ried.

I know that Trump supporters have been crowing about CNN calling Cruz a liar, “they are the second largest news station!!!”

A thread this weekend discussing Trump’s current “pro-life, except...” style of pro-life had several posters claiming this was a perfectly legitimate conservative abortion position.

Prior to Trump, claiming any of these views as Conservative would have been laughed off.


102 posted on 02/07/2016 10:37:44 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: 5thGenTexan

I do not have links - but Trump has revealed several specifics during a few his rallies. May even have such written on his website.


103 posted on 02/07/2016 10:38:55 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Windflier

So you are admitting to non-reporting? Does that make you part of the problem?

Oh, yeah, you must use them in order to keep up with your competitors’ rates. So you are one of the pro-illegal business guys you claim are all behind Cruz.

Or are you trapped, just like the rest?


104 posted on 02/07/2016 10:41:46 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: WTFOVR

THE ISSUE ISN’T ME OR YOU. It’s who is the best candidate to be president of the United States. Character says a lot about any man. So you believe that a serial adulterer (like Billy Jeff), a strip club owner and a long-time Democrat has the morals to be president. I would imagine that you also believe that a man who 2X broke his marriage vows will keep his word about building a border fence and get Mexico to build it. You have NO STINKING IDEA what Donald Trump will do. He is as much a blank slate to you and America as Obama was in 2008. But, thankfully, many Americans are making up their mind about him. Sixty percent of Americans don’t like — and that’s worse than Hillary’s numbers, so you think Trump is better to beat HRC than Cruz. Very funny.


105 posted on 02/07/2016 10:42:00 PM PST by sruleoflaw
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To: mbrfl

When are you trumpanzees going to do some accurate research of you own and quit puking out donniebrooks of lies. Cruz was talking about the wall when donnie was still giving millions to the Clinton Foundation.

A bill was started in 2006 authorizing a wall/fence be built but the funds were never provided. The female senator(KBH), whom Cruz replaced, was involved with killing the bill. It was all talk by Washington but never funded.

Cruz knew it could not be rescued by a single senator much less funded but would as president accomplish the task.

Y’all just need to learn to use the internet, it can be a wonderful thing. And oh, Google can be your friend also.


106 posted on 02/07/2016 10:42:53 PM PST by biff
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To: WTFOVR
I back up my discussions with links at the demand of Trump supporters all the time.

For example, here is Cruz's page on border security:

https://www.tedcruz.org/issues/secure-the-border/

And I don't insult them and call them names. I make my case, show my facts and state my opinions.

107 posted on 02/07/2016 10:46:30 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: Windflier; 5thGenTexan

Same here - I work in the house building industry - a designer, purchaser and QA ... And I’ve seen up close and personal how this sh*t goes on ... The worst part is that most of these illegals are dumber than a bag of hammers ... They do crap work, and we end up spending 3X the additional labor and materials to redo their screw-ups. In the end, hiring illegals ends up costing more money than hiring American workers who do the job right the first time.

The general attitude I see on display with illegals is “FK IT, IT’S GOOD ENOUGH!” - which probably works in Mexico or some other third world dung hole ... but that sure does not give you American quality.

Tell you something else I learned quick - these illegals get hired by some cheap-ass contractor, who thinks he’s gonna break his competition by using low-wage under-the-table labor - but what happens is his illegal workers eventually leave him, start up their own business, and then undercut him to the point that he closes shop.


108 posted on 02/07/2016 10:49:10 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: SoConPubbie

Trump called for 80% of what’s in his current immigration platform in his 2010 book ‘Time to Get Tough’ — including building a wall.


109 posted on 02/07/2016 10:49:33 PM PST by montag813
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To: biff

“A bill was started in 2006 authorizing a wall/fence be built but the funds were never provided. The female senator (KBH), whom Cruz replaced, was involved with killing the bill. It was all talk by Washington but never funded.”

What relevance does this have with regards to my assertion that Cruz has talked little about this issue in his 4 years in the senate? The answer is none. Nothing in your post contradicted anything I said in my comment. If you’re going to disagree with me, at least try to use logic.


110 posted on 02/07/2016 10:50:35 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: sruleoflaw

Oh, you got virgin ears, sweety?


111 posted on 02/07/2016 10:50:55 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: Windflier
In 2013, Ted was all for giving the illegals some sort of quasi permanent legal status, without making them full citizens.

Nope in 2013 Cruz worked with Sessions to poison the Gang of Eight bill authored by Rubio.

Listen to Sessions talk about it in his own words. Just one month ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umhneqW41Ig

112 posted on 02/07/2016 10:54:33 PM PST by LowOiL
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To: WTFOVR
You Cruz people are grasping at anything

Your done

If you repost this get your cash up front

113 posted on 02/07/2016 10:54:35 PM PST by scooby321
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To: 5thGenTexan

I never said the Koch Bros. were “evil” - YOU said that, so do not put words in my mouth. My contention is that Cruz has his “big donors” who are going to expect “big favors” in return. That was my point.


114 posted on 02/07/2016 10:55:33 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: mbrfl

Are you so stupid to figure out he knew as the only senator in favor nothing was going to happen? One against 99??? Hello? Anybody home?


115 posted on 02/07/2016 10:58:09 PM PST by biff
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To: mbrfl

Besides, it is proof your claims are false.


116 posted on 02/07/2016 10:58:55 PM PST by biff
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To: sruleoflaw

Put a sock in it, missy. You’re a hypocrite.

You publicly condemn the sins of another, but will not publicly confess your own. I’ve got your number. Go have your “personal relationship” with meltdown somewhere else.


117 posted on 02/07/2016 10:59:32 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: scooby321

Huh? I support Trump - although, if nominated, I will support Cruz too.


118 posted on 02/07/2016 11:02:34 PM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: WTFOVR
They go to the back of the line - try 5-10 years before they "get back in"

Yep. All this talk about 'expedited' re-entry is just grasping on to whatever thread the losing side can hold on to.

It's true that Trump has said those words (the links have been posted to me multiple times), but it's almost comical that some people are imagining a scenario where an illegal goes to Tijuana and gets a hall pass from some Mexican government amnesty drone, then proceeds straight back across the border waving their 'pass' into America.

FFS, it ain't gonna work like that under any circumstance.

People forget that Trump isn't a polished politician, and because of that, he's not micro managing every stinking word that comes out of his mouth. The man is open and honest almost to a fault, and sometimes says things in haste, that can be easily spun to mean the opposite of what he intended.

When he said that he wanted to expeditiously bring back "the good ones", I knew that he said that out of compassion for those who will, no doubt, be severely impacted by the hammer he's about to bring down upon them.

The man's not stupid. He knows how much angst and emotional turmoil is going to be felt when he unleashes the full might and power of the Office of President to implement his immigration plan.

The guy isn't a monster. He knows this is going to hurt, and he very much would like to see those who will truly join us as new Americans, move through the immigration process as smoothly as possible.

119 posted on 02/07/2016 11:03:34 PM PST by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: sparklite2

Talk is cheap, ie, Trump.

There is none so blind, as those who refuse to see.


120 posted on 02/07/2016 11:05:28 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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