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The special hell of a Cruz rally: What it's like to spend an evening with GOP’s oiliest operator
Salon ^ | February 5, 2016 | Gary Legum

Posted on 02/06/2016 1:23:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: grania
I believe that Trump and Rubio did the same thing and then there's that thing about what Carson adviser, Armstrong Williams said.

It's a non story.

121 posted on 02/06/2016 8:04:03 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Eagles6
The other campaigns didn't "do the same thing" if a few gophers repeated a rumor and didn't embellish it and it didn't come from HQ embellished and verified.

It isn't a non-story. After what was done to steal the nomination for Cochran in the primary runoff, "win at all costs" is no longer acceptable. Just remember, we'd have one more conservative US Senator if it weren't for campaign dirty tricks. Cruz playing that game is affirming that now and in the future the same old stuff will be played, and it's used mostly against principled conservatives.

122 posted on 02/06/2016 8:53:04 AM PST by grania
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To: Faith65; All

Faith65 wrote:
The special hell of a Cruz rally: What it’s like to spend an evening with GOP’s oiliest operator.

Glad you picked up on that line Salon encouraged Larry Legum was permitted to use to impress the Salon readers who are a snickering bunch of creeps. Which is no subtle inference to another racist epithet; Greaser


123 posted on 02/06/2016 8:53:56 AM PST by mosesdapoet (My best insights get lost in FR's becaus e of meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
In fact, he's so oleaginous he reminds one of the puddles covering the stained cement floor of a Jiffy Lube.

All the Jiffy Lubes I've been in have had clean, painted floors.

124 posted on 02/06/2016 8:56:11 AM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well that was about as enlightening as falling down. :-) I wonder if the author knows that more people are uninsured now than before Obamacare? LOL!

Even I feel compelled to stick up for Teddy on this one.


125 posted on 02/06/2016 9:09:32 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: TexasCajun
Yet, the Trump Fan Club hearts Salon & this butt-boi.

This accusation really astonishes me. I am sincerely asking, can you point me to a post or posts that document your claim? Which Trump supporters have promoted a Salon article, or this writer?

All of us who love FR would like to avoid trolls and know who they are, regardless of who we support in the upcoming primaries.

126 posted on 02/06/2016 9:34:11 AM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"This is the polished and professional political rally of the true believers, ecstatic in their fervor and their belief in the rightness of their cause."

As if "true believers" does not describe the attitude of the Obamaites or - now - the Bernie Sanders people, convinced of "the rightness of their cause." As if "polished and professional" would not be seen as good things at a Democratic rally.
127 posted on 02/06/2016 9:38:21 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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To: Albion Wilde

I have not read this article... The title led me to believe that Cruz was into big oil... yet making a big splash about so called phasing out ethanol subsidies... did not interest me... but boy was I wrong... still not going to read, it is not like Salon writes stuff I need to put into my head.


128 posted on 02/06/2016 9:40:41 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I am proud to be supporting a man who can arouse so much vitriol from the lap-top of such an arrogant and repulsive individual.

How such superior people can bear to share a country with the likes of us must truly astound and amaze them...

129 posted on 02/06/2016 9:48:41 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: LeoWindhorse
The article is smug, crude, and obnoxious to the nth degree, but he raises three issues that I have about Cruz.

1. Is the flat tax really a good idea? Will it effect lower-income people more than the wealthy? And will it make our budget problems even worse?

2. How do you "abolish" the IRS if there are still ANY federal taxes to be collected?

3. If Obamacare is abolished, what - if anything - will replace it?

But it seems no one is interested in asking about the impact of the candidates' proposed policies. It's all about name-calling.
130 posted on 02/06/2016 9:50:05 AM PST by Steve_Seattle ("Above all, shake your bum at Burton.")
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131 posted on 02/06/2016 9:52:14 AM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (ANYBODY who would choose Trump over Cruz has a screw loose.)
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To: dynoman

passing on a CNN report is “dirty”?

But Trump, Cruz and Rubio people telling the people at the caucus that Ted Cruz is not eligible is fair play?

what a joke

So the rules are different for Trump and Cruz?

Trump can mock the disabled, diss veterans, use foul language, accuse another candidate of being psycho “like a child molester” and flip-flop on a daily basis and that is just peachy keen.

Some standards. Can those standards for Trump get any lower?

Oh right, he can shoot a person on 5th avenue and do abortions in the oval office, and that’d be great.

No standards at all.


132 posted on 02/06/2016 11:10:40 AM PST by GeronL (I remember when this was a conservative forum)
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To: GeronL; dynoman

But Trump, Cruz and Rubio people telling the people at the caucus that Ted Cruz is not eligible is fair play?


LOL...got a link for that, other than that random CRuzGirl’s TWEET? Is there documented proof....like memos or voicemails sent out, that Trump’s or the Rubes campaigns did this?

Why would CRuz or Rube’s camp even begin to say CRuz isn’t eligible?

I call BS.


133 posted on 02/06/2016 11:14:30 AM PST by Jane Long (Go Trump, go! Make America Safe Again :)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Oh noes! A Salon editorialist doesn’t like Cruz OR his supporters!

It’s over now folks pack it up and go home.


134 posted on 02/06/2016 11:26:43 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
[Article] Because these are the true believers, and true believers know that they are right and everyone else is not only wrong, but evil and stupid.

Sounds like a pretty good thumbnail sketch of Salon writers.

135 posted on 02/06/2016 12:53:27 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: Mr Rogers

No point in being rude because you don’t agree


136 posted on 02/06/2016 1:18:49 PM PST by patriot08 (5th generation Texan ...(girl type))
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To: grania
I agree about Cochran but I don't believe that's what happened here.

Carson has admitted that his campaign put out misleading info that led to the CNN story.

We'll agree to disagree.

137 posted on 02/06/2016 1:35:01 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: Steve_Seattle
1. Is the flat tax really a good idea? Will it effect lower-income people more than the wealthy? And will it make our budget problems even worse?

If it's "flattish", with only two or so "steps" like the 1986 law, then no, it shouldn't overly burden the indigent and people with marginal incomes.

Everybody should pay "something" .... and a flat tax would do that without crushing the poor.

2. How do you "abolish" the IRS if there are still ANY federal taxes to be collected?

Other federal agencies can be tasked with tax collection, e.g. Customs as in the 19th century. Payroll and W-4 taxes could be collected and remitted by Social Security or another Treasury agency.

3. If Obamacare is abolished, what - if anything - will replace it?

"Nothing" is the right answer. Private group arrangements and insurance will be more efficient, more effective, and freer of political interference and power-games than any federal program.

Obamacare was intended mostly to give employers a way to dump their employees' health plans and flow the premiums to the bottom line, ever so bonusably for the executive suite.

Companies that dump their plans can be made subject to punitive taxation, and executives' compensation bumps can be taxed away -- "legislating ag'in 'em" is an old American remedy for economic misbehavior.

Abolishing Obamacare is the realization of the basic idea that solutions closer to home than the District of Columbia with its welter of expensive entertainments are always better solutions. Unless you enjoy supporting Senator Menendez's sexual appetites ..... and other appetites and needs .... times 100.

138 posted on 02/06/2016 1:38:36 PM PST by lentulusgracchus ("If America was a house , the Left would root for the termites." - Greg Gutierrez)
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To: Eagles6
we'll agree to disagree

I concur. E6, we just might inspire a whole new tone in FR world! <^..^>

139 posted on 02/06/2016 1:40:03 PM PST by grania
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Even I feel compelled to stick up for Teddy on this one.

A ray of hope.

: )

140 posted on 02/06/2016 3:02:37 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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