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Ted Cruz Is A 'Natural Born Citizen,' Board (Illinois) Of Election Finds
Huffington Post ^ | 02/02/2016 06:37 pm ET | Cristian Farias

Posted on 02/02/2016 4:36:59 PM PST by 11th Commandment

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To: Mother Mary

So what is the naturalization process? Is there only one process? What defines this process?


241 posted on 02/02/2016 6:50:10 PM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: RummyChick

Exactly, and the same mindset sits all across the US on benches wearing black robes. They play like they are the gods of the Greeks... have no problem lying because they got a license..


242 posted on 02/02/2016 6:51:44 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: outofsalt

So what is the naturalization process? Is there only one? What defines this process?


243 posted on 02/02/2016 6:51:54 PM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: Cboldt
"Cruz could have obtained a Canadian passport at any time up until Canada recognized his renunciation of Canadian citizenship."

But first they probably would have asked him if he intended to give up his US passport.

This is all about nothing, …and Cruz is not my first choice.

244 posted on 02/02/2016 6:52:05 PM PST by cookcounty ("I was a Democrat until I learned to count" --Maine Gov. Paul LePage)
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To: Just mythoughts

IF the shoe was on the other foot, and it was Trump - you can bet the Cruzbots would be singing a different tune.


245 posted on 02/02/2016 6:54:48 PM PST by Catsrus (I callz 'em as I seez 'em)
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To: diamond6
The Congress acted to define "natural born", and it is established by statute.

The only "statutes" Congress can enact are statutes dealing with naturalization (the act of adopting a foreigner, and clothing him with the privileges of a native citizen) as is plainly stated in the Constitution.

An Act of Congress simply can't make someone a natural born citizen as they aren't empowered to do that.

246 posted on 02/02/2016 6:55:01 PM PST by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty and supped with infamy. Benjamiin Franklin)
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To: Outlaw76
No, you'll only listen to a judge you agree with.

No reason to be snarky, dude. If he loses, appeal it all the way up to the Supreme Court if necessary and then no one can mess with that decision.

247 posted on 02/02/2016 6:55:54 PM PST by No Dems 2016
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To: cookcounty
-- But first they probably would have asked him if he intended to give up his US passport. --

Unless they ask, Canada has no way of knowing if Cruz ever claimed his US citizenship. His parents had as much of a claim to Ted being a citizen of Cuba (one citizen parent, birth abroad - Cuba's law is similar to US), as they did to claim him being a US citizen.

All Cruz would have had to submit for a Canadian passport is his Canada BC and maybe (but I think not) some evidence (affidavit) he never renounced his citizenship.

248 posted on 02/02/2016 6:56:04 PM PST by Cboldt
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To: philman_36
The only "statutes" Congress can enact are statutes dealing with naturalization

The first part of establishing a rule for naturalization is to identify who is required to be naturalized and who is not. If you are not required to be naturalized because you are a citizen at birth, you are a "natural born citizen".

249 posted on 02/02/2016 6:57:31 PM PST by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Yosemitest

Your problem is that there are just as many opposite findings and interpretations on this. It’s a controversy and needs to be resolved. I for one think that Cruz is eligible to be president but it’s a problem for him and I think he should resolve it in court.


250 posted on 02/02/2016 6:57:42 PM PST by No Dems 2016
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To: PJBankard

http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/immigrationnaturalization


251 posted on 02/02/2016 6:58:14 PM PST by Mother Mary
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To: Catsrus
Cruz cannot protest Rubio’s eligibility... snicker
252 posted on 02/02/2016 6:58:48 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: PJBankard
"Naturalization" means applying to be recognized as a US citizen after birth. If you are a citizen at birth you do not need to do this. You are a natural citizen.

The application process is not complicated but does require certain residency requirements as well as educational criteria and a sworn oath to the US.

253 posted on 02/02/2016 6:59:28 PM PST by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: RummyChick

Even quoting the wrong statute. That correct one is the one that was in effect prior to 1986. In that, the requirement was prior to the birth of such person, the mother was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period of ten years, five after the age of fourteen.


254 posted on 02/02/2016 7:00:11 PM PST by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)
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To: 11th Commandment

Given how corrupt the State of Illinois is (I live here, I KNOW!) saying Cruz is a natural born citizen isn’t saying much, ROFL!!!


255 posted on 02/02/2016 7:00:49 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: diamond6

BTW, when I saw your reply, I thought you were talking about Cruz. You do know he was a clerk who researched and wrote opinions for Supreme Court Justice Rehnquist, right?
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So????????????????????? Does he have a halo and wings because he worked for Rehnquist? A clerk is a clerk. A Billionaire who has made his way in the REAL WORLD is so far beyond a lawyer politician who is looking to spend his life on the government teat itnis not even funny. We need a problem solver who can think outside the biox not just more of the same old, same old BS!


256 posted on 02/02/2016 7:01:20 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: 11th Commandment

Cruz is not eligible per the Constitution. Just because a board of elections says he’s eligible does not make it so.


257 posted on 02/02/2016 7:02:22 PM PST by Girlene
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To: CA Conservative

” citizen at birth, you are a “natural born citizen”. “

If these two were the same, you wouldn’t keep writing them separately... a faux pas??


258 posted on 02/02/2016 7:02:23 PM PST by Lower55
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To: 11th Commandment
In response to the filings, Cruz's lawyers relied on Supreme Court precedent

What Supreme Court Precedent? It's been my understanding for weeks now that the USSC has NEVER ruled on the definition of Natural Born Citizen.

259 posted on 02/02/2016 7:02:44 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: West Texas Chuck

The Law of Nations by E. Vattel 1758 clearly states a Natural Born Citizen is one born on the soil of two citizen parents. Anyone else is just a citizen. The reliance on the Law of Nations by the Framers is undisputed. Article I, Section 8 establishes the Law of Nations is IN the Constitution. Article II, Section 1, Cluse 5 establishes Natural Born Citizen as a requirement for the prsidency.


260 posted on 02/02/2016 7:05:50 PM PST by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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