Posted on 02/02/2016 6:55:51 AM PST by TigerClaws
Sure, his rival won the first-in-the-nation nominating contest. And he didn't even come in second place. In fact, Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) came in third, exactly where we predicted he would.
But it's how Rubio came in third that makes all the difference. Polling indicated Rubio would be a distant third, trailing by perhaps double digits in the socially conservative state — an afterthought behind the two candidates expected to duke it out for first: Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) and Donald Trump.
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Rubio has already explained that he intends to get an amnesty for illegal aliens and not deport any of them.
Perhaps. First, though someone has to convince Bush, Kasich, Christi. Carson and Paul to take a hike. Bush has money and may just stick around to try and stick it to Rubio as there seems to be a little vendetta simmering between the two.
Ted Cruz 51,649 votes
Donald J. Trump 45,416 votes
Marco Rubio 43,132 votes
Ted Cruz beat Trump by 6233 votes
Ted Cruz beat Rubio by 8517 votes
Donald Trump beat Rubio by only 2284 votes
So Cruz beat Trump by roughly 3x as many votes as Trump beat Rubio
This was a YUGE loss for Trump!!
20 point hole... says who? The obviously incorrect polls? No votes have been cast in New Hampshire... There is no hole
I am aghast at how many people have bought into this “true conservative” meme. It’s all over the web too.
Ted Cruz is a career politician.
Ted Cruz is owned by the people paying his way in that career.
Marco Rubio is a career politician.
Marco Rubio is owned by the people paying his way in that career.
They’re both political mistresses and if elected, will play the game per instructions.
All thats required is clarity on his roll in the Gang of Eight and he's toast. He's been able to bob and weave impressively so far but that cant last.
Doubt Jeb will withdraw prior to Florida (Super Tuesday). He has the $$$ to stick around till then. His ego will not let him drop out till after the Florida primary.
The GOPe’s rubots are already spinning.
Amen!
“”He’s the electable one of the bunch. Trump and Cruz are too extreme.””
And as soon as he gets the nomination, “Rubio is too extreme to be President.”
“He’s the electable one of the bunch. Trump and Cruz are too extreme.” I disagree with you on this one point - These are extreme times, and the people want extreme, not to try to ‘make’ a deal. The best negotiator in the World was Satan when he worked out a deal with Eve. Just because someone can ‘deal’ doesn’t make them the best choice. I believe that most people realize the seriousness of the times, and that we don’t have time to ‘get along’ to ‘get along.’ Just my opinion.
I challenge these results. Trumps crowds were huge. The other guys didn’t have that kind of interest. Nobody did. There was no sign that masses of Trump attendees decided they didn’t like him so much.
These results are good for Cruz. I get that. But if this had been done to him, wouldn’t you be saying “hey something is not right here!”?
We should all recognize that we are being had here. This time it’s Cruz who benefits but next time he might be the guy who gets screwed.
“So Cruz beat Trump by roughly 3x as many votes as Trump beat Rubio”
And he has ONE delegate more. THAT’S IT. One measly delegate.
After one year of living there, millions of dollars, tons of people having to be shipped into Iowa to work his operations.
He has ONE whole delegate to show for it.
“20 point hole... says who? The obviously incorrect polls? No votes have been cast in New Hampshire... There is no hole”
That’s cute. NH is not Iowa. So sorry, there isn’t some podunk process to foul-around with or spend a year massaging to win. So if you think Cruz has no hole to bridge, you are blowing smoke.
Ted will do the same thing
while suffering total political paralysis from the democrats and GOP establishment on controlling the border and after putting us through the suffering of billions of dollars in govt paid legal challenges by the invaders, of course
but the speeches sound good, very conservative and inspiring as always
“Iowa does NOT matter. Period.”
Nor does New Hampshire. Iowa was Trump’s throwaway. New Hampshire is Cruz’s throwaway. After that is when the fun starts.
Clinton got 2.8% in 1992, for crying out loud! That was 2 spots behind a guy named “Uncommitted”.
I wonder if Christie, Kasich, and Fiorina will stick it out until Super Tuesday if they do very poorly in NH and SC.
You're right that Jeb will at least stick it out through Florida. As far as I'm concerned, I hope that he's in the race until the bitter end to keep Rubio from going over the top. I'd almost wish that either Trump or Cruz would drop out so that a single anti-establishment candidate could consolidate the anti-establishment vote, in the same way that Rubio will probably consolidate GOP establishment support after Super Tuesday, but that obviously won't happen. I also hope that the Trump or Cruz supporters on this site aren't representative of Trump or Cruz supporters overall with the mutual hatred of one another's candidate. I get the feeling that some Trump supporters now hate Cruz so much that they'd rather get Rubio than support Cruz, and vice-versa with many Cruz supporters. It's kind of depressing.
This was all manufactured. That Emerson poll was put out right before the caucus to make the Rubio rise believable.
Now it will be all Rubio all the time.
I’m stunned how many out there do not know what a trojan horse Marco Rubio is. He is in this, handpicked, by the worst of the worst in GOP politics. They also control Paul Ryan and put him where he is.
The Rubio Deception.....MUST READ!
https://klsouth.wordpress.com/2014/07/19/refresher-rubios-deceptions/
[snip]To understand Rubio, you have to understand his Chief of Staff; a man by the name of Cesar Conda. Who is Cesar Conda? He’s a pro-amnesty immigration lawyer, who once worked as a DC lobbyist for the Association of Immigration Lawyers [video], mutual friend and close associate of fellow amnesty pusher Grover Norquist, who together have carried out their three-decade long Amnesty Jihad. Like Norquist, the amnesty pushers on the left like Cesar Conda.
Norquist, a corporate lobbyist and co-founder of the Islamic Institute, has had ties to CAIR, radical Islam, known terrorist financiers and unsavory relationships with Muslim activist for years. This video warrants particular scrutiny of Norquist, who actively promotes and advances the Islamic agenda. These are Norquist’s bedfellows; it’s why he actively petitioned support for the “Ground Zero Mosque” and it’s why he is very active in “Muslim outreach.”
Norquist is on the Advisory Board of The Hispanic Leadership Fund, member of the Council on Foreign Relations [CFR], Founder of Americans for Tax Reform [ATR] and good pal of felon Jack Abramoff and GOP stooge Karl Rove whose Crossroads GPS group has been a major donor to Norquist’s fund. Secret emails exclusively obtained by Breitbart News show the libertarian Cato Institute, Norquist’s ATR, and Rubio colluding on immigration reform “messaging” after the Boston Marathon bombing.
And, then there is Norquist’s lobbying on behalf of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Norquist’s primary interest in DC is Norquist. For his part, he is hitting the media trail attempting to combat what he calls the “bitter enders” who oppose the bill by trying to counteract the effect of “a handful of radio talk-show hosts who talk loudly.” Also assisting Rubio, Conda and Norquist in their Amnesty scheme is the Southern Poverty Law Center [SPLC], a Soros-backed group. SPLC’s history.
Cesar Conda sat on the Editorial Advisory Board with George Soros of the publication, The International Economy Magazine. He also actively worked to promote and advance Judge Sotomayor’s nomination. Conda was a lobbyist for the powerhouse private prisons GEO Group who supported open borders and government money for incarcerated illegal aliens. He also lobbied for the US Chamber of Commerce, who supports the Gang of Eight Amnesty bill. His paw prints also extend to the expensive bank bailouts, something Rubio claims he was against.
Conda is a domestic policy wonk. His government experience runs deep. In fact, Conda has weaved and bobbed between so many roles in Washington he was included in Roll Call’s “Fabulous Fifty” list of top congressional aides. He undertook policy roles spanning the 1996 Dole-Kemp to Mitt Romney’s 2008 Presidential Campaigns. Both Conda and Norquist worked together to destroy prop 187 in California in the 1990’s.
But, what also sets Rubio’s office apart is Cesar Conda’s supposed continued ties, major abuse of power, and financial relationship with his lobbying firm, Navigators Global. Navigators clients included GlaxoSmithKline, AT&T, Visa and Citigroup, which got $45 billion under the bank bailout. Rubio’s ties to K-Street are extensive. His deputy chief of staff, Sally Canfield, is a former lobbyist for Sanofi-Aventis, a French drug company.
And, from 1997 to 2005 Rubio himself, was a lobbyist. Consider what one of his most vocal critics said about him here, which likely put a halt to Romney selecting Rubio as VP candidate. Consider: City commissioner, lawyer, lobbyist, one-time GOP Party of Florida American Express card holder, top-echelon House leader and, ultimately, House Speaker, oh and Jeb Bush water boy. Florida is a politically corrupt state. From 2000 to 2010, there were 781 federal convictions on corruption charges. That’s an average of one every five days for 10 straight years.
Like Conda, Rubio has amnesty as a core belief. He is John McCain with an ‘accent’; and without a military record of crashing planes. His past record is relevant. All you have to do is look at history. This page provides history of the efforts of Floridians to enact immigration enforcement legislation in the 2008 Florida Legislative Session. All legislative results were thwarted, at the time, by House Speaker Marco Rubio.
Rubio stalled and “blocked” all enforcement bills in Florida stating: “There is nothing the state of Florida can do unilaterally to solve global warming. And there is nothing we can do unilaterally to solve immigration.” Rep. Juan Zapata, R-Miami and Miami Rep. David Rivera, the son of Cuban exiles, usually ran anti-enforcement interference for Rubio in the Florida House.
But there were other legislative matters. Rubio pushed for free in-state tuition for illegal aliens on Florida taxpayers dime. He fought to allow a “self pay” (no insurance) for medical care without the hospital collecting a balance on the hospital billing; while prohibiting the hospital from pursuing civil remedies. This would serve illegal aliens by protecting them from detection. And he made an attempt to keep all “working papers” (such as dead bills) from seeing the light of day to the public.
Rubio’s Amnesty Scheme
Rubio’s shenanigans started with the ‘deceptive messaging’ of ‘de facto’ amnesty. As Front Page Mag points out, there’s a big difference between not fully enforcing the law & legalizing a crime. Just as there is a difference between not arresting a drug dealer and legalizing heroin. A lack of proper enforcement is not ‘de facto’ amnesty. Its lack of enforcement. Amnesty is legalization. The bill was a cocktail of lawlessness, executive discretion, and legalistic trickery crafted by the organized, open-borders left.
Its fake provisions in S.744 are outlined here. Sadly, Rubio was PIMPING his ‘de facto Amnesty’ scheme on all TV and radio shows including Univision and Telemundo. He was featured in this TV ad which was run on Fox News as part of a $300,000 ad buy bought by The American Action Network, a group founded by former Sen. Norm Coleman and GOP donor and long-time activist Fred Malek. Two cafeteria Republicans.
And, this ad was from Mark Zuckerberg’s new “FWD.us” group; which drew scrutiny, even from Factcheck.org. Zuckerberg had a similar group making similar ads for liberal audiences. The advisory board of the shell “conservative” group included Haley Barbour, former lobbyist for the government of Mexico, and several people linked to the ‘open border’ Bush family; Sally Bradshaw, former chief of staff to Jeb Bush; and Dan Senor and Joel Kaplan, former W. Bush advisers.
When it came to pushing illegal alien amnesty, Senate bill S.744, Rubio spun words like a North Eastern Liberal. This wasn’t just amnesty. It’s was INSTANT AMNESTY. The massive implications of millions of foriegn invaders being pumped into the electorate was and is detrimental. Rubio was complicit in actively assisting the Democrats in their biggest voter registration drive in history; 30 million illegal aliens is enough to create some 50 new congressional districts - primarily Democrat.
Rubio is a shoo in. It has been decided.
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