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In His Own Words
Townhall.com ^ | January 29, 2016 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 01/29/2016 5:54:20 AM PST by Kaslin

"As far as single payer, it works in Canada, it works incredibly well in Scotland." "I would press for universal healthcare. ... I would put forward a comprehensive health care program and fund it with an increase in corporate taxes." "We must have universal healthcare."

"I hate the concept of it, but on a humanitarian basis, you have to [take in Syrian refugees]"

"I support the ban on assault weapons and I also support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun." "I hate the concept of guns." "The Republicans walk the NRA line and refuse even limited restrictions." "I probably identify more as a Democrat."

"Everybody's got to be covered. This is an un-Republican thing to say. I'm going to take care of everybody.... The government is going to pay for it." "I believe the Republicans are just too crazy right."

"I've very impressed by [Nancy Pelosi]. I like her a lot." "Hillary is a great friend of mine. Her husband is a great friend of mine."

"I'm a liberal on healthcare." "As far as single payer, it works incredibly well in Canada." "I am pro-choice in every respect."

Those are Donald Trump's words over the last number of years. Trump's position supporting a socialist healthcare scheme is about the only consistent position he has maintained.

In 2010, Donald Trump funded Democrat efforts to stop Republicans from taking back Congress. In 2014, he switched teams and supported the Republican Establishment against conservatives. Now he has tilted all the way to the right to support the anti-establishment conservatives he so recently hated as "crazy right."

Conservatives, particularly evangelicals, have lost their ability to discern wolves in sheep's clothing. Donald Trump calls himself a Christian, but has never asked God for forgiveness and sees no need to repent. Point that out to many an evangelical Christian and they will be quick to accuse you of judging Donald Trump. And if you point out that 1 Corinthians 5 makes clear that Christians are to judge anyone who calls himself a Christian, Trump defenders will proclaim they are not electing a pastor. Paul wrote, "[do not] associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler". The Bible also implores the faithful to seek out godly men for their leaders.

Pastors in the United States -- including Robert Jeffress of First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas, an evangelical megachurch -- have hitched their wagons to Trump. Jeffress and other evangelical ministers seem convinced that the flawed vessel of Donald Trump can make America great again when they, as pastors, are supposed to be saving souls, not nations. Jeffress and his cohorts are seeking earthly powers to fight spiritual battles.

That men who spend their time wrapped in scripture and preaching in pulpits are quick to embrace a man who is on his third wife gets me thinking. This man is on his third wife -- after having cheated on his first wife with his second -- and says he has never asked God for forgiveness, cannot name a favorite book of the Bible and has no favorite passage of scripture. This suggests to me that many Christian preachers in this country have unsure moorings and let their homesickness for this country as they think they once knew it supersede their homesickness for the land to which they have not yet been, but to which they supposedly long.

As Screwtape wrote to Wormwood, "we want a man hag-ridden by the Future -- haunted by visions of an imminent heaven or hell upon earth -- ready to break the Enemy's commands in the present if by so doing we make him think he can attain the one or avert the other -- dependent for his faith on the success or failure of schemes whose end he will not live to see. We want a whole race perpetually in pursuit of the rainbow's end, never honest, nor kind, nor happy now, but always using as mere fuel wherewith to heap the altar of the future every real gift which is offered them in the Present." Many a pastor and Christian for Trump seems hag-ridden by the Future and ready to pursue a rainbow.


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To: elhombrelibre

I still see CONSERVATIVE Trump supporters as the equivalent of a 19 year old that sneaks into a nudie bar and falls for a pole dancer and wants to marry her.

Her baggage will kill the marriage pretty fast.


21 posted on 01/29/2016 6:17:03 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Kaslin

Erickson is a douche.


22 posted on 01/29/2016 6:18:03 AM PST by jospehm20
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To: marktwain
“The quotes prove, beyond a doubt, that if you diligently comb through the records of a public persona over many decades, you can finds some instances in which they said some dumb things off the cuff, and changed their mind later.”

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The difference is these aren't “decades” old quotes. Just like the low info voters of 2008 with Obama, Trumps adherents are projecting what they want on an empty palette. They willingly choose to ignore what he says about many things while chasing the shiny object of a wall and someone that's not politically correct.

23 posted on 01/29/2016 6:18:34 AM PST by Mac n Jac (www.vetsfightingms.org)
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To: elhombrelibre

No what happened is the usual GOP water boys spend all their capital lying about Trump. After hearing so many lies from the usual suspects so long voters no longer believe anything the habitual liars choir say.

That the danger of being a habitual liar. People don’t listen even if one day they speak truth.


24 posted on 01/29/2016 6:19:31 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: elhombrelibre

“If you’re not a liberal at 64, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative at 65, you have no brain”.


25 posted on 01/29/2016 6:20:06 AM PST by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: cuban leaf

Erick was the one who went “ad hominem” when he withdrew Trump’s invitation to his own Red State Gathering, and then introduced Jeb Bush as “my friend Jeb Bush!”

All you Trump haters out there are going to come to a decision point when the inevitable becomes fact and Trump gets the nomination. Will you, like you all say if Cruz wins demand we Trump supporters vote for Cruz, vote for a nominated Trump in the end? That time is coming.

I will vote for Trump in my primary here in Georgia (and he will win the state) but if Cruz ends up the nominee, I’ll GLADLY and PROUDLY vote for him in the general election. Can you say the same about Trump? I think not.


26 posted on 01/29/2016 6:20:16 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: MNJohnnie

ok. i’ll play. so what quotes in this article are lies?


27 posted on 01/29/2016 6:21:28 AM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: elhombrelibre
Trump as Jim Jones is really unhinged and baseless.

Donald is motivated by raw patriotism. He has red white and blue collar support because people can see through all the hype and want action on borders, budget, military, political correctness and fair trade.

Trump is not owned by donors. He loathes politicians. He is a successful businessman, a builder. he is not a lawyer! Thank God!

People love to hate for a variety of self serving reasons. But when the dust settles, Trump will be on top and America will be great again!

28 posted on 01/29/2016 6:22:35 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Gaffer

of course not...why would we vote for a liberal? that would be antithetical to being a conservative.


29 posted on 01/29/2016 6:22:36 AM PST by Axeslinger (Trump: the Kaitlyn Jenner of conservatism. One's not a woman, one's not a conservative.)
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To: elhombrelibre

Trump means what he says today? Ha and tomorrow he’ll change his mind again and says something totally different. He really has you by the nose and you don’t even recognize it.


30 posted on 01/29/2016 6:23:39 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Axeslinger

And there it is. My point exactly.


31 posted on 01/29/2016 6:24:02 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Axeslinger

You wasted all your time posting infantile snarks and bile laced hysteric tirades. NO one care what you think or say now since you exposed yourself as a ignorant welded shut mind long ago.

That why you don’t behave like an infantile ass around here, people always remember and simply stop bothering to read your postings.

If you want to be effective, don’t waste your time being a jackass.


32 posted on 01/29/2016 6:24:42 AM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: Axeslinger

I fully READ the article at least. We have no way to determine if the OP read it and had thoughts about it.


33 posted on 01/29/2016 6:25:04 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: elhombrelibre

Amen, brutha! Preach it! The closet liberal “conservatives” are just twisting his own words and taking them out of context to use against his Trumpness!!


34 posted on 01/29/2016 6:25:24 AM PST by ManHunter (You can run, but you'll only die tired... Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)
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To: elhombrelibre

Yeah, youthful indiscretion for Trump. He was only 64 then.

And Reagan was 55 when he signed an Open Carry ban in California.

I said nothing of “youthful indiscretion”.


35 posted on 01/29/2016 6:27:33 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Gaffer

I’m not a Trump hater. You are missing the mark. Badly.


36 posted on 01/29/2016 6:28:03 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
But they sure have no problem digging up whatever the other candidates said in the past & contort it to mean what they say it means...

Biblically we are seeing that truly the very elite will be fooled......

37 posted on 01/29/2016 6:28:53 AM PST by annieokie
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To: Kaslin

I’m the same age as Trump and my views on issues has changed over the years too. They’ve even changed since 1998 when I joined FR.


38 posted on 01/29/2016 6:29:23 AM PST by babygene (Make America Great Again)
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To: j.argese

By the time of the Republican National Convention, The Donald will OWN the Republican party, lock, stock, and rainbarrel. His personal ranch, to run as a fiefdom, and set the rules of visitation, custody, and support.

The status quo STINKS.


39 posted on 01/29/2016 6:29:40 AM PST by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: don-o

They don’t care because they are ignorant and don’t realize that they are lead around by their noses.


40 posted on 01/29/2016 6:30:32 AM PST by Kaslin
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