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Mathews: "I Do Believe In Reparations" If You Can Figure Out "What It Would Be"
Breitbart.com ^ | January 21, 2016 | Ian Hanchett

Posted on 01/21/2016 3:30:33 AM PST by Biggirl

MSNBC’s “Hardball” host Chris Matthews said that “I do believe in reparations, if he could figure out what it would be” in a discussion on Democratic presidential candidate Senator Sen. Bernie Sanders ’ (I-VT) position on the issues on Wednesday.

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1 posted on 01/21/2016 3:30:33 AM PST by Biggirl
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To: Biggirl

40 acres and mule.


2 posted on 01/21/2016 3:33:33 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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To: Vermont Lt

If they hate it so much here, a plane ticket back to the motherland. I am sure they will enjoy life better in Botswana.


3 posted on 01/21/2016 3:34:53 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Jews for Cruz)
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To: Biggirl

Black people should be able to own white liberals as slaves. Makes as much sense as anything else.


4 posted on 01/21/2016 3:41:40 AM PST by FreedomForce ( Cruz 2016 --------- I've come to my senses. Trump is no longer even my second choice.)
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To: Vermont Lt
40 acres and mule

How would you pimp out a mule?

5 posted on 01/21/2016 3:47:36 AM PST by tbpiper
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To: Biggirl

Let me guess, I bet he also really sympathizes with the girl who wanted to be recompensed for the Powerball tickets she bought but still did not win the lottery.


6 posted on 01/21/2016 3:48:59 AM PST by OttawaFreeper ("You'd see a different game if nobody wore a helmet". NY Rangers' Barry Beck 1983)
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To: Biggirl
When will these African nations ever apologize or pay "reparations" for slavery? Better yet, when will they end the practice?

Slavery in modern Africa

Slavery in Africa continues today. Slavery existed in Africa before the arrival of Europeans - as did a slave trade that exported millions of sub-Saharan Africans to North Africa, the Middle East, and the Persian Gulf.[1] However, slavery and bondage are still African realities. Hundreds of thousands of Africans still suffer in silence in slave-like situations of forced labour and commercial sexual exploitation from which they cannot free themselves.

Modern-day enslavers also exploit lack of political will at the highest levels of some African governments to effectively tackle trafficking and its root causes. Weak interagency co-ordination and low funding levels for ministries tasked with prosecuting traffickers, preventing trafficking and protecting victims also enable traffickers to continue their operations. The transnational criminal nature of trafficking also overwhelms many countries' law enforcement agencies, which are not equipped to fight organized criminal gangs that operate across national boundaries with impunity.

Slavery by African country

Chad
IRIN (Integrated Regional Information Networks) of the UN Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs reports children being sold to Arab herdsmen in Chad. As part of a new identity imposed on them the herdsman "...change their name, forbid them to speak in their native dialect, ban them from conversing with people from their own ethnic group and make them adopt Islam as their religion."[2]

Mali
The Malian government denies that slavery exists, however, the slavery in Timbuktu is obvious. Slavery still continues with some Tuaregs holding Bella people.[3]

Mauritania
A system exists now by which Arab Muslims -- the bidanes -- own black slaves, the haratines.[4] An estimated 90,000 black Mauritanians remain essentially enslaved to Arab/Berber owners.[5] The ruling bidanes (the name means literally white-skinned people) are descendants of the Sanhaja Berbers and Beni Hassan Arab tribes who emigrated to northwest Africa and present-day Western Sahara and Mauritania during the Middle Ages.[6] According to some estimates, up to 600,000 black Mauritanians, or 20% of the population, are still enslaved, many of them used as bonded labour.[7] Slavery in Mauritania was finally criminalized in August 2007.[8] Malouma Messoud, a former Muslim slave has explained her enslavement to a religious leader:

"We didn't learn this history in school; we simply grew up within this social hierarchy and lived it. Slaves believe that if they do not obey their masters, they will not go to paradise. They are raised in a social and religious system that everyday reinforces this idea.[9]"

In Mauritania, despite slave ownership having been banned by law in 1981, hereditary slavery continues.[10] Moreover, according to Amnesty International:

"Not only has the government denied the existence of slavery and failed to respond to cases brought to its attention, it has hampered the activities of organisations which are working on the issue, including by refusing to grant them official recognition".[11]

Imam El Hassan Ould Benyamin of Tayarat in 1997 expressed his views about earlier proclamations ending slavery in his country as follows:

"[it] is contrary to the teachings of the fundamental text of Islamic law, the Quran ... [and] amounts to the expropriation from muslims of their goods; goods that were acquired legally. The state, if it is Islamic, does not have the right to seize my house, my wife or my slave."[12]

Niger
In Niger, where the practice of slavery was outlawed in 2003, a study found that almost 8% of the population are still slaves.[13] Slavery dates back for centuries in Niger and was finally criminalised in 2003, after five years of lobbying by Anti-Slavery International and Nigerian human-rights group, Timidria.[14] More than 870,000 people still live in conditions of forced labour, according to Timidria, a local human rights group.[15][16]

Descent-based slavery, where generations of the same family are born into bondage, is traditionally practiced by at least four of Niger's eight ethnic groups. The slave masters are mostly from the nomadic tribes -- the Tuareg, Fulani, Toubou and Arabs.[17] It is especially rife among the warlike Tuareg, in the wild deserts of north and west Niger, who roam near the borders with Mali and Algeria.[18] In the region of Say on the right bank of the river Niger, it is estimated that three-quarters of the population around 1904-1905 was composed of slaves.[19]

Historically, the Tuareg swelled the ranks of their slaves during war raids into other peoples' lands. War was then the main source of supply of slaves, although many were bought at slave markets, run mostly by indigenous peoples.[20][21]

Sudan
Francis Bok, former Sudanese slave. At the age of seven, he was captured during a raid in Southern Sudan, and enslaved for ten years.(Courtesy Unitarian Universalist Association/Jeanette Leardi)

There has been a recrudescence of jihad slavery since 1983 in the Sudan.[23][24]

Slavery in the Sudan predates Islam, but continued under Islamic rulers and has never completely died out in Sudan. In the Sudan, Christian and animist captives in the civil war are often enslaved, and female prisoners are often used sexually, with their Muslim captors claiming that Islamic law grants them permission.[25] According to CBS news, slaves have been sold for $50 apiece. [1] In 2001 CNN reported the Bush administration was under pressure from Congress, including conservative Christians concerned about religious oppression and slavery, to address issues involved in the Sudanese conflict.[26] CNN has also quoted the U.S. State Department's allegations: "The [Sudanese] government's support of slavery and its continued military action which has resulted in numerous deaths are due in part to the victims' religious beliefs." [2]

Jok Madut Jok, professor of History at Loyola Marymount University, states that the abduction of women and children of the south by north is slavery by any definition. The government of Sudan insists that the whole matter is no more than the traditional tribal feuding over resources.[27]

It is estimated that as many as 200,000 people had been taken into slavery during the Second Sudanese Civil War. The slaves are mostly Dinka people.[28][29]

South Africa
Despite significant efforts made by the South African Government to combat trafficking in persons the country has been placed on the "Tier 2 Watch List" by the US Department of Trafficking in Persons,for the past four years.[47] South Africa shares borders with Namibia, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Lesotho, Mozambique and Swaziland. It has 72 official ports of entry "and a number of unofficial ports of entry where people come in and out without being detected" along its 5 000 km-long land borderline. The problem of porous borders is compounded by the lack of adequately trained employees, resulting in few police officials controlling large portions of the country's coastline.

Child slave trade
The trading of children has been reported in modern Nigeria and Benin.[30] The children are kidnapped or purchased for $20 - $70 each by slavers in poorer states, such as Benin and Togo, and sold into slavery in sex dens or as unpaid domestic servants for $350.00 each in wealthier oil-rich states, such as Nigeria and Gabon.[31] [32]

Ghana, Togo, Benin
In parts of Ghana, a family may be punished for an offense by having to turn over a virgin female to serve as a sex slave within the offended family.[33] In this instance, the woman does not gain the title of "wife". In parts of Ghana, Togo, and Benin, shrine slavery persists, despite being illegal in Ghana since 1998. In this system of slavery, sometimes called trokosi (in Ghana) or voodoosi in Togo and Benin, or ritual servitude, young virgin girls are given as slaves in traditional shrines and are used sexually by the priests in addition to providing free labor for the shrine.[34]

Ethiopia
Mahider Bitew, Children's Rights and Protection expert at the Ministry of Women's Affairs, says that some isolated studies conducted in Dire Dawa, Shashemene, Awassa and three other towns of the country indicate that the problem of child trafficking is very serious. According to a 2003 study about one thousand children were trafficked via Dire Dawa to countries of the Middle East. The majority of those children were girls, most of whom were forced to be sex workers after leaving the country. The International Labor Organization (ILO) has identified prostitution as the Worst Form of Child Labor.[35]

In Ethiopia, children are trafficked into prostitution, to provide cheap or unpaid labor and to work as domestic servants or beggars. The ages of these children are usually between 10 and 18 and their trafficking is from the country to urban centers and from cities to the country. Boys are often expected to work in activities such as herding cattle in rural areas and in the weaving industry in Addis Ababa, and other major towns. Girls are expected to take responsibilities for domestic chores, childcare and looking after the sick and to work as prostitutes.[35]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa

Or,

http://web.archive.org/web/20160108090835/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_modern_Africa%3C/a%3E

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The Price in Blood
Casualties in the Civil War

At least 618,000 Americans died in the Civil War, and some experts say the toll reached 700,000.

The number that is most often quoted is 620,000. At any rate, these casualties exceed the nation’s loss in all its other wars, from the Revolution through Vietnam.

The Union armies had from 2,500,000 to 2,750,000 men. Their losses, by the best estimates:
Battle deaths: 110,070
Disease, etc: 250,152
Total 360,222

The Confederate strength, known less accurately because of missing records, was from 750,000 to 1,250,000. Its estimated losses:
Battle deaths: 94,000
Disease, etc: 164,000
Total: 258,000

http://civilwarhome.com/casualties.htm

7 posted on 01/21/2016 3:49:56 AM PST by ETL (Ted Cruz 2016!! -- For a better, safer America)
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To: Biggirl

I will be happy to contribute to the support of anyone who can prove he or she was once legally enslaved in the United States.


8 posted on 01/21/2016 3:53:03 AM PST by Tax-chick (Alive, awake, alert, enthusiastic, and mildly hostile toward the universe.)
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To: Biggirl
I'm all in favor of making the Democrats pay reparations for slavery, since they fought to keep slavery. They can also pay reparations for Jim Crow, and for what Connor and other Democrats did.

They can also pay the GOP for their attacks on Republicans during the Civil Rights struggle. So when do I get mine?

9 posted on 01/21/2016 3:53:55 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Biggirl

Open your own wallet Chris. BTW Chris, you are a fool with a damned tingle.


10 posted on 01/21/2016 3:58:07 AM PST by marygam (can we get to the election already?)
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To: Vermont Lt

How about $40 and a one-way ticket back to their homeland for these “hyphenated-Americans”.


11 posted on 01/21/2016 4:01:20 AM PST by newfreep (TRUMP & <S>Cruz</S> 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Tax-chick
I will be happy to contribute to the support of anyone who can prove he or she was once legally enslaved in the United States.

I didn't see the word "legally" at first. It's a good caveat to use, since illegal slavery is alive and well in the US. The illegal slave trade is called "human trafficking", and liberal politicians go to great trouble to protect it by refusing to enforce immigration law or beef up border security.

12 posted on 01/21/2016 4:04:45 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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"Reparations"???

How 'bout the third-generation welfare recipients quit committing crimes, get educated, and start working for a living? Then maybe they'll have some money with which to pay "reparations" to those of us who subsidized their parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents.

13 posted on 01/21/2016 4:08:31 AM PST by NorthMountain ("The time has come", the Walrus said, "to talk of many things")
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MSNBC’s “Hardball” host

I thought the “odd characters” issue was supposed to have been fixed?


14 posted on 01/21/2016 4:09:19 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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I have no problem with reparations as long as they’re paid entirely by the Democrat Party.


15 posted on 01/21/2016 4:09:42 AM PST by Maceman
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I was once legally enslaved in the United States, I am as white as Sven Jorgensen but I am 180 years old and I was born a poor black slave. I will expeect my first check within thirty days, my story makes at least as much sense as “Caitlyn’s”.


16 posted on 01/21/2016 4:14:15 AM PST by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: Biggirl

Didn’t we buy them a country in Africa? Isn’t it called Liberia for liberty? Do they need travel money to go to their country in Africa? How about a Go Fund Me for this purpose? Or is there already a resettlement travel fund?


17 posted on 01/21/2016 4:19:25 AM PST by abclily
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To: Vermont Lt

NO-give away HIS paycheck... so HE can stand in the welfare line


18 posted on 01/21/2016 4:19:35 AM PST by SMARTY ("What is freedom? To have the will to be responsible for one's self. "M. Stirner)
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To: Biggirl

White priveledge m’ f’er as long as you dont touch pile pile of cash


19 posted on 01/21/2016 4:23:53 AM PST by ronnie raygun
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I have often heard blacks demanding reparations for slavery. All right. I agree. It is only fair. I will pay a half-million dollars to each of my slaves, and free them immediately. I am not sure how many I have, but will try to give you an estimate in even dozens. Further, I believe that all blacks are entitled to a similar amount for every year in which they were slaves.

However, I think you owe us royalties for the use of our civilization, which can be regarded as a sort of software. There should be a licensing fee. After all, every time you use a computer, or a door knob, you are using something invented by us. Every time you sharpen a pencil, or use one, or read or write, you infringe our copyright, so to speak. We have spent millennia coming up with things–literacy, soap, counting–and it is only fair that we receive recompense.

The accounting burden would be excessive if we tried to distribute royalties in too fine a granularity, such as three cents per use of a boom box or a Glock, so we should probably use a bundled approach–so much per year for use of the wheel, refrigerator, and television. The amount could be deducted first from reparations payments and then automatically from EFT cards.

By Fred Reed - http://fredoneverything.org/page/3/


20 posted on 01/21/2016 4:23:59 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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