Trump hit back after Hillary played the sexist card.Bill is icing down his bruises.
Good Ship Hillary is taking on water
( Hillary pictured center ) You sunk my Battleship.
Posted on 01/17/2016 7:53:26 AM PST by TBBT
Several conservative voices who were once supportive of Donald Trump, or at least open to him, are bristling at his latest tactics. A significant number of conservatives found Trump to be close to their pugnacious-style communicative ideal and Cruz to be close to their conservative policy ideal, and they don’t like watching the former beat up the latter on sketchy terms. “I don’t think Ted Cruz has a great chance, to be honest with you,†Trump said this morning to ABC News ‘George Stephanopoulos. “Look, the truth is, he’s a nasty guy. He was so nice to me. I mean, I knew it. I was watching. I kept saying, ‘Come on Ted. Let’s go, okay.’ But he’s a nasty guy. Nobody likes him. Nobody in Congress likes him. Nobody likes him anywhere once they get to know him. He’s a very –- he’s got an edge that’s not good. You can’t make deals with people like that and it’s not a good thing. It’s not a good thing for the country. Very nasty guy.â€
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“The great plan on the Cruz side was to let Trump beat the snot out of all of Cruz’s potential opponents last fall...with the expectation that Trump would
“implode” by Dec 1st so Cruz, after making ZERO effort to attack any candidate, would just waltz in and assume his “rightful” spot at the top.
They thought that they could use Trump as an attack dog to spare Cruz the need to actually be exposed to a real political fight, or having to spend money.”
I think that pretty well sums it up, with emphasis on Cruz’s “rightful spot”.
Where have YOU been little fella? “Conservatives” hate Trump and have been writing lies about him for months without laying a glove on him. Why didn’t a conservative argue against Trump? Get you head out of the sand pall.
Trump hit back after Hillary played the sexist card.
Bill is icing down his bruises.
Good Ship Hillary is taking on water
What I don’t get about this latest move by Trump is this - does he really think that this is going to get him more votes?
A lot of Trump supporters are actually Cruz supporters who like Trumps eviscerating style better than Cruz’s more scholarly demeanor. But they certainly are not going to appreciate Trump eviscerating their political soulmate Cruz.
Trump hit back after Hillary played the sexist card.Bill is icing down his bruises.
Good Ship Hillary is taking on water
( Hillary pictured center ) You sunk my Battleship.
Limbaugh is a rare specimen of a businessman. He gets
paid for vocalizing his politics, he mixes business with
pleasure and is paid handsomely for it. What you don’t
apparently understand is his priorities. His number one
political priority is to defeat liberalism, NOT to promote
one non-liberal candidate over another. Rush will defend the
conservative against the GOPe and the GOPe against the
Democrats. Unlike many here he will vote GOPe if he has to.
Yes, Limbaugh has a preference and it will usually be the
most conservative candidate. In this cycle he shows the
most love to Cruz and Trump. I would submit that the
reason for this has as much to do with their enemies as it
does with them. To publicly promote one over the other
at this point would be a bad business move on Limbaugh’s
part and he knows it.
If you think I am wrong on this then you are probably a
part time Limbaugh listener and definitely not a
listener since 1985.
No, Conservatives had no ability to argue against Trump. Conservatives have no standing, any more.
I am just guilty of standing by and letting Trump go as anyone else. I liked what he was doing to the Insiders. Mehta I didn’t see is that Trump is no different than any of the Insiders who are willing to do anything, say anything, make deals with anyone to advance their own careers.
Now we are seeing the Libertarians push Trump over Cruz because the Libertarian Republicans hate the evangelicals with a passion not seen since civil rights days. Evangelicals are the new Blacks.
If Jim gerhaty weren’t such a gope tool ....
This is conservatism versus populism.
Neither is uniparty.
:-)
Hillary isn’t going to make it to the convention. We don’t know who the Democrat candidate is going to be, but it won’t matter because Trump is a Democrat.
I am now pro-life; after years of being pro-choice
Donald Trump shocked attendees at the conservative CPAC conference in February when he declared himself pro-life after years of supporting the pro-abortion position. Several months ago, when questioned about his position, Trump responded by saying the public "would be surprised" by his stance and, in an interview with Laura Ingraham from Fox News leading up to the conference, Trump characterized himself as "pro-life" and he repeated that apparent reversal when he told the audience at CPAC, "I am pro-life" and pledged to fight for the reversal of ObamaCare, which contains abortion funding loopholes.
As the 2012 race intensifies, pro-life advocates must call upon Donald Trump to further explain his stand on important pro-life issues like Supreme Court nominations and repeal of the pro-abortion Obama healthcare law. Source: Steven Ertelt in LifeNews.com , Apr 8, 2011
I changed my views to pro-life based on personal stories
Q: Evangelicals want to feel secure that they're going to have a nominee that's solid on those social issues. A: One thing about me, I'm a very honorable guy. I'm pro-life, but I changed my view a number of years ago. One of the primary reasons I changed [was] a friend of mine's wife was pregnant, and he didn't really want the baby. He was crying as he was telling me the story. He ends up having the baby and the baby is the apple of his eye. It's the greatest thing that's ever happened to him. And you know here's a baby that wasn't going to be let into life. And I heard this, and some other stories, and I am pro-life. Q: So those stories did change you, they came around and changed you? A: They changed me. Yeah, they changed my view as to that, absolutely. Source: David Brody interview on CBN.com , Apr 8, 2011
I am pro-life; fight ObamaCare abortion funding
Billionaire Donald Trump told the Conservative Political Action Conference that he's thinking about running for president. His remarks drew lots of applause and cheers from the crowd, who will play a key role in grass-roots organizing for the eventual 2012 GOP presidential nominee. "I'm well acquainted with winning," Trump said. "That's what this country needs now."
In his CPAC speech, Trump sounded many themes popular with Republican conservatives. "I am pro-life," he said. "I am against gun control."
And in one of his biggest applause lines, Trump vowed to end the nation's health care law: "I will fight to end Obamacare and replace it with something that makes sense for Source: USA Today report on 2011 Conservative Political Action Conf. , Feb 10, 2011
Pro-choice, but ban partial birth abortion
I support a woman's right to choose, but I am uncomfortable with the procedures. When Tim Russert asked me on Meet the Press if I would ban partial-birth abortion, my pro-choice instincts led me to say no. After the show, I consulted two doctors I respect and, upon learning more about this procedure, I have concluded that I would support a ban.
Source: The America We Deserve, by Donald Trump, p. 31-32 , Jul 2, 2000
IMO, the biggest plus for Trump, warts and all, that he has going for him is the ability to pull in voters from across the entire political spectrum. None of the others can do that, and if he is not nominated, those voters will return to their roots and Hillary will be in. It’s that simple.
We have somehow survived, battered and bleeding as we are, after two terms of obama. I cannot see Trump, even if he is as liberal as his detractors say, can EVER harm this country the way obama has.
If he turns out to be a closet liberal, throw the bum out and give Cruz or the other younger ones a shot.
Well, that last premise is faulty; Trump is in no way a conservative. He's a progressive big-government statist.
As far as Limbaugh's priorities go, he used to say his primary goal was to support conservatism. When he started to pimp Trump, I noticed he changed his tune a little and said he was in it to defeat the Democrats.
" Rush will defend the conservative against the GOPe and the GOPe against the Democrats. Unlike many here he will vote GOPe if he has to."
Unlike me, because I'm done selling my soul to put liberals in office while pretending the outcome will be anything but disastrous. Ask yourself just what the GOPe has done for you, or what they've done to defeat Obama.
Answer: nothing. They might as well have Ds behind their names.
"Yes, Limbaugh has a preference and it will usually be the most conservative candidate. In this cycle he shows the most love to Cruz and Trump. "
If Rush's preference is the most conservative, he wouldn't have made his show into a Trump infomercial.
The last straw for me came when I heard him openly mock and deride a caller who laid out Trump's liberal stances. I knew then he wasn't going to be able to cover this primary objectively.
"I would submit that the reason for this has as much to do with their enemies as it does with them. To publicly promote one over the other at this point would be a bad business move on Limbaugh’s part and he knows it."
Again, your entire premise here is wrong. You lump Cruz and Trump together as though they're the same, both conservative. They are 180 degrees from one another. Trump the progressive has openly come out against Cruz from the left, and he has the left standing with him on it.
"If you think I am wrong on this then you are probably a part time Limbaugh listener and definitely not a listener since 1985."
You're clearly wrong because you don't even understand Trump's basic nature.
As far as me not being a longtime listener, quit with the fangirling. Up until Rush's Trump love affair, I listened pretty regularly, but that's irrelevant. 1985? Good grief, of course I wasn't listening then...I wss twenty and politics was the last thing on my mind.
I don't allow talk radio hosts to mold my opinions. I listen to the extent that they agree with the opinions I already have. I believe Levin is the most honest of them. As he said the other night, the rest of them shy away from speaking the truth about Trump, even though all of them are aware of it. I don't have any time for that.
Yes, The problem with electing conservatives is that they don’t have the level of support needed to beat a Dem. I wish it was not true, because I would like conservative leadership. But right now we have a candidate who has a lot of conservative ideas and can win.
Conservative voters should be pleased with this outcome. And Trump will draw in the larger tent that the GOP establishment pretends to want.
And IMO Trump has been first with the big issues and is still right on them. Recall who raised the immigration issue from day one, and cornered the market on stopping Muslim terrorism before it gets in the door.
Tag line.
I don’t see the benefit in this, it will drive up Trump’s negatives.
Lets see where Trump goes from here and keep this moment in time for future reference.
Its important not to fight right now, that will only Jeb in the end.
The GOPe and the MSM use this whole process of a long campaign with frequent debates to create fights to destroy candidates other than the anointed one so the anointed GOPe candidate is the only one left standing at the end of the process.
Since you started the thread, I don’t have to read any further. Thanks for saving me the time.
Excellent post
First, I will say that I also have a problem with Trump’s
past just as you and others do. What people including Rush
like about Trump is what he says now and the way that he
says it. They give Trump the total benefit of the doubt and
you don’t. Fine, but to say that Limbaugh’s show is a
three hour infomercial for Trump is pure hyperbole and
factually wrong, as well. Limbaugh has called out Trump for
comments he has made about Cruz. He spends most of his
time exposing stupid liberal tricks, not hacking for one
primary candidate. Is a three hour unpaid infomercial for
a primary candidate in his best business interest? You
tell me.
I don’t lump Cruz and Trump together because they are, in
fact, both conservative. To the extent that they are both
talking the talk I do lump them together. You believe
Trump is lieing and you could be right. But you could
also be wrong.
In fact, if Trump became president I suspect he might open
the WH door to libtards in too many areas. But if my
November choice is Trump or Clinton I will vote for
Trump. Go ahead and stay home, Catherine. At least with
Trump as president people like Limbaugh may hold a little
influence.
I am not “fangirling” anyone but unlike you I understand
what Limbaugh is and isn’t about. To me Rush is A source,
not THE source.
Talking means zero. Cruz has the record to back up what he says. Trump is a lifelong liberal who suddenly becamse “conservative” seven months ago, but since then continues to make slips of the tongue which reveal his core liberalism. Why would I trust him? There’s absolutely no reason to do so.
Trump has been caught in lie after lie, flip-flop after flip-flop. To deny this is simply to deny reality.
Stay home? If there are any conservatives on the ticket, I’ll vote for them. But I won’t dirty myself with a vote for a progressive sleaze like Trump.
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