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Arizona May Criminalize Recording Cops in Public
USA News ^ | Jan. 11, 2016 | Steven Nelson

Posted on 01/11/2016 5:04:58 PM PST by Boomer

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To: OldSmaj
Unbelievable. Your naivete is astounding.

Look, no matter how bad a government, there will always be some monkeys that screech their approval.

Germany's Holocaust and Russia's Holodomar had its civilian cheerleaders.

41 posted on 01/11/2016 6:34:17 PM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: sagar
This is a common sense approach. There are good guys and there are bad guys. LEOs are the good guys. Harassing them is counter productive.

I don't think I have ever seen video where the person taking the video was using a camera to get into a LEO's way, or harass them or obstruct officers by taking a video. I have never seen that. In fact someone would not need to be taking a video to do that. But I have seen countless times where LEOs totally over reacted to being recorded when they were not being obstructed.

42 posted on 01/11/2016 6:37:48 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: sagar

There are good guys and there are bad guys. LEOs are usually the good guys.


43 posted on 01/11/2016 6:44:22 PM PST by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: Boomer

I don’t think the video is the problem it’s the selective editing that sucks.


44 posted on 01/11/2016 6:44:23 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame enobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Boomer

The legislation would require people to be at least 20 feet away while recording “law enforcement activity” or farther if officers decide that’s needed. Recording inside private buildings such as homes would be allowed from “an adjacent room or area” unless an officer objects.


doesn’t say they can’t record, just 20 feet away. looks like a good law to me.


45 posted on 01/11/2016 6:44:23 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: sagar

Do you have enough basic comprehension of etymology to see the mockery you just made of yourself?


46 posted on 01/11/2016 6:44:43 PM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Lazamataz
Look, no matter how bad a government, there will always be some monkeys that screech their approval.

True...but this guy has been around FR since '05.

I would have thought that he's learned something.

Oh, well...can't reach 'em all.

47 posted on 01/11/2016 6:49:05 PM PST by OldSmaj (Nearly 8 years of obamafail. How much more must we endure? It is not too late for impeachment!)
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To: sagar

Police are public servants. As are politicians. Both have somehow gotten the idea that they need to tell people what to do...what kind of light bulbs to use, how much water they can flush, whom they can film. We are one of the least free police states on the planet. This trend needs to be reversed.


48 posted on 01/11/2016 6:49:51 PM PST by ez (Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is... - Milton)
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To: sagar
One of the tools they need to properly protect and serve is the public giving them space to do their work and certainly not an interfer with brandishing cameras and shoving them in their faces.

If this happens so often and is now some kind of big issue, could you give me a link to a video where the people are "Shoving their cell cameras in their faces"?

Thanks.

49 posted on 01/11/2016 6:53:50 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PeterPrinciple
doesn't say they can't record, just 20 feet away.

Read the part about being private areas/property, etc, and the part about the cop deciding if it's far enough way...on his own.

...looks like a good law to me.

Poorly written, constitutionally vague, leaves too much discretion to a misbehaving cop.

Slippery slope.

50 posted on 01/11/2016 6:54:33 PM PST by OldSmaj (Nearly 8 years of obamafail. How much more must we endure? It is not too late for impeachment!)
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To: Hiddigeigei

Dunno about that.

Too many times I see a cop in uniform that is obviously abusing steroids with the over developed muscles and acne and I really hope he doesn’t roid rage during a traffic stop on some civilian.


51 posted on 01/11/2016 6:55:04 PM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: OldSmaj

Slippery slope?

That’s the perfect term for this. Bad mumbo.


52 posted on 01/11/2016 6:57:35 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: OldSmaj

And example would be a “legal” protest with the LEO’s doing their jobs walking or standing the line and telling folks, “no video please”! “Yes it’s OK to yell at me, but no video please”.

lol...


53 posted on 01/11/2016 7:02:57 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
"Yes it's OK to yell at me, but no video please".

And that would be just fine for the liberals.

54 posted on 01/11/2016 7:06:23 PM PST by OldSmaj (Nearly 8 years of obamafail. How much more must we endure? It is not too late for impeachment!)
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To: Boomer
Does no one here remember that law enforcement officers used to be peace officers?

Which is better, to "keep the peace" or "enforce the law"?

Now admittedly, there are times when enforcing the law keeps the peace. But, those seem to be fewer and farther between as police forces have become militarized.

I see nothing wrong with filming a public employee, in public, or in your own home. If the employee doesn't want to be filmed I would suspect one of two things. Either they do not know how to do their job or they want to do something they want to hide from the public.

We aren't talking about getting a camera 2 feet from the action. Anyone that does that during a crime is insane anyway and will probably be up for a crack at the Darwin Award.

55 posted on 01/11/2016 7:11:41 PM PST by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: sagar
Cops are there to protect and serve...

Nonsense. See Us Supreme Court, Castle Rock v. Gonzales.

56 posted on 01/11/2016 7:15:58 PM PST by Stentor
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To: sagar

Perhaps I was too hard on you.

You and I agree on 20 feet, right?

Do you agree with the other provisions?


57 posted on 01/11/2016 7:34:40 PM PST by Lazamataz (If the Oregon occupiers are occupying a National Wildlife REFUGE, are they not now REFUGEES?)
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To: Lazamataz

I will re-read tomorrow and get back to you.


58 posted on 01/11/2016 9:07:43 PM PST by sagar
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To: sagar

how would you feel about a law that says no privately held weapons within 20 feet of a cop?


59 posted on 01/12/2016 3:25:47 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Freedom isn't free, liberty isn't liberal and you'll never find anything Right on the Left)
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To: muir_redwoods

“how would you feel about a law that says no privately held weapons within 20 feet of a cop?”

You are just making it so easy. Try pointing a gun in front of a cop like you would a camera. Even at 200 feet. And let me know if you have not committed suicide-by-cop.


60 posted on 01/12/2016 5:47:14 PM PST by sagar
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