Posted on 12/01/2015 10:41:52 AM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel
The best part is when she asks the obvious follow-up -- is a path to legalization "amnesty"? -- and he won't even make eye contact.
There's a spectrum of answers to this question on the right, of course:
1. Amnesty is citizenship without preconditions. That's the strictest definition, and naturally the one preferred by Beltway Republicans like Marco Rubio in his Gang of Eight days. (Marco Rubio circa 2010 had a different view.) As long as you're forcing illegals to jump through some sort of hoop, be it learning English, paying back taxes, going to the back of the line, etc, that's not amnesty -- even if you're granting them citizenship. Anything short of immediate voting rights for illegals, no questions asked, is A-OK.
2. Amnesty is citizenship. That's Jeb Bush's position, as I understand it. Jeb will legalize 'em, let 'em stay in the U.S. and work, but allowing them to become full citizens with voting rights goes too far in rewarding them for breaking our laws. The most an illegal can aspire to be is a permanent legal resident. Beyond that lies amnesty.
3. Amnesty is legalization unless you've improved security first. That's Ted Cruz's position (and Marco Rubio's current position), again as I understand it. This isn't so much a literal definition of "amnesty," which is a matter of legal status, as it is a political compromise between the two prongs of comprehensive immigration reform. Legalization (i.e. work permits) is on the table if and only if we see concrete improvements in internal enforcement first. Border hawks got suckered in 1986 by accepting promises of future border security in return for immediate grants of amnesty; despite the Gang of Eight's best efforts, they won't get suckered again.
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Love it!
Go Trump!
Not wasting my time. Sessions has LED on this issue since 2006 and before, making speech after speech and issuing paper after paper on the subject. Cruz is very much a late comer to the debate.
If you don't know that...
It is condescending to not answer. I even read where he said that Americans don’t want to have that conversation. Who is he talking about? Not Trump supporters!
His Club for Growth donors are talking to him, no doubt.
I find all this to be very dishonest.
The poster is typical of those supporting professional politicians. Business as usual.
His last comment was to suggested the people who ask difficult questions should be ignored. This is exactly what the problem in DC has been for 30+ years and why millions of Americans now see their government as a GD dictatorship against the will of the people.
And why our borders have been an utter disaster and national security nightmare for decades. They never intended to do anything about it. Votes and cheap labor.
Profits and power regardless of consequences.
Got it.
Yes Sessions has been immigration for a lot of years, and he was the one Trump went to before he came out with his immigration plan....good choice for Trump!!!
See the beauty in the plan, grasshopper? They will be expedited once they’ve followed the LEGAL process.
You cap the word "legal", but the illegals returning legally doesn't preclude a touchback legalization amnesty passed and signed into law.
Now, if Congress votes to change/adjust the quota line, that’s an entirely different issue.
Similar to Cruz needing to clarify things, Trump needs to clarify what he means by the word "expedite".
Back in ~2006 Mike Pence proposed a touchback amnesty. KB Hutchison did the same in 2007. Both of those plans were washed out by us here on FreeRepublic because they were amnesty.
“Frankly, I wish these two things hadn’t popped up for Ted.”
Those 2 nixed it for me. I’m glad I didn’t send hum $ in the beginning. I actually think many of the Cruz-bots here got stuck by donating early. Now they’d feel like a fool for backing a pro-amnesty candidate, so they pretend he isn’t.
“I consider amnesty to be forgiving the law-breaking of those who come here illegally and having no consequences and in particular, a path to citizenship,†he told reporters in Clinton, Iowa, before a campaign event, when asked to define the term.
“Cruz is the biggest fighter against amnesty that the Senate has”
Not hardly, Sessions wins hands down. And doesn’t play games with the definition.
I consider amnesty to be forgiving the law-breaking of those who come here illegally and having no consequences and in particular, a path to citizenship,” he (Cruz)told reporters in Clinton, Iowa, before a campaign stop.
“You can’t say that the majority of criminals are Democrats, then be coy about “a path to citizenship” for millions of undocumented Democrats”
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Boy, isn’t that the truth. When I heard Cruz make that statement, I said...”he just lost any chance of winning a general election.” It’s like when the Dems stated that Repubs were terrorists.
Bad choice.
Document your claim.
Cruz received $11 million from Mercer, and I believe Mercer is anti amnesty.
“Additionally, IMHO, I believe Trump has no intention of letting the illegals back in once they are gone.”
I think he is going to make it much harder than he lets on, PLUS will put them all BEHIND all those waiting. He has mentioned many times how unfair it is to them.
Yep...
Oh boy.
Ha—his list doesn’t include the question of what to do with the 30 million currently here illegally.
Presuming that Cruz would legalize them, all his “get tough” actions wouldn’t apply to them either.
The second time Bush ran I recall Bush supporters telling people not to bring up the borders, amnesty or illegals until AFTER the election as there would be plenty of time to address that once he was elected.
Here is Dallas Texas 2006 during professional politician Bush's Republican presidency.
500,000 illegals march on Dallas Texas waving foreign flags while making threats and demands. All during war time.
Outside of Obama, Bush was one of the worst presidents in history.
Cruz's immigration plan, with details, is available for anyone to read. TedCruz.orgOr you can go to his official Senate website: Where under "immigration" in part it says:
In 2013, Sen. Cruz proposed amendments to the "Gang of 8" bill that would strengthen border security, expand green card opportunities, increase high-skilled "H1B" visas, prevent illegal aliens from receiving welfare benefits, and enforce the rule of law.Expand green cards to make them legal, with benefits...AKA backdoor amnesty.
His wife did a paper for CFR that essentially calls for open borders.
Heidi Cruz's work for the Council on Foreign Relations: Building a North American Community:
The Task Force's central recommendation is the creation by 2010 of a North American community to enhance security, prosperity, and opportunity. Its boundaries will be defined by a common external tariff and an outer security perimeter within which the movement of people, products, and capital will be legal, orderly, and safe. Its goal will be to guarantee a free, secure, just, and prosperous North America
You can't tell me this isn't pillow talk or discussed at dinner(s).
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