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Trump Releases His Plan for 2nd Amendment… Leaves Millions Furious (Liberal Heads Exploding)
Right Wing News ^ | 23 Nov 15 | Sela T

Posted on 11/23/2015 6:11:16 AM PST by xzins

One common criticism of billionaire businessman and presidential candidate Donald Trump is that he far too often speaks in vague generalities and rarely offers specifics about where he stands on the issues. Well,he’s getting specific now, and you want to hear this!

“The Second Amendment to our Constitution is clear. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed upon. Period,” the position paper began.

Trump went on to explain that the right to keep and bear arms is a right that pre-exists both the government and the Constitution, noting that government didn’t create the right, nor can it take it away.

He also rightly denoted the Second Amendment as “America’s first freedom,” pointing out that it helps protect all of the other rights we hold dear.

In order to protect and defend that right, Trump proposed tougher enforcement of laws that are already on the books, rather than adding new gun control laws.

Citing a successful program in Richmond, Virginia, that sentenced gun criminals to mandatory minimum five-year sentences in federal prison, Trump noted that crime rates will fall dramatically when criminals are taken off the streets for lengthy periods of time.

Trump also proposed strengthening and expanding laws allowing law-abiding gun owners to defend themselves from criminals using their own guns, without fear of repercussion from the government.

Noting that many of the recent high-profile shooters had clear mental problems that should have been addressed, Trump proposed fixing our nation’s broken mental health system by increasing treatment opportunities for the non-violent mentally ill, but removing from the streets those people who pose a danger to themselves and others.

Trump would do away with pointless and ineffective gun and magazine bans and suggested fixing the current background check system already in place, rather than expanding a broken system.

Furthermore, Trump proposed a national right to carry, a national concealed carry reciprocity law that would compel states to recognize the concealed carry permits of any other state, exactly as drivers licenses from anywhere are accepted by all states today.

Finally, Trump would lift the prohibition on military members carrying weapons on military bases and in recruiting centers, allowing trained military members to carry weapons to protect themselves from attacks by terrorists, criminals and the mentally unstable, as we have seen recently.

This is great, and those who cherish our right to keep and bear arms should be pleased by Trump’s stated position on the Second Amendment.

Of course, liberal anti-gunners will hate this, but their opinion on the matter is of little concern to us “people of the gun,” of which Donald Trump is apparently one.

Please share this on Facebook and Twitter to help spread Donald Trump’s official policy position on the Second Amendment and our right to keep and bear arms.

It sure sounds like Trump really understands the constitution,like a real American would. We didn’t become the Land of the Brave by passing out turkish delights to the British.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; 2ndamendment; banglist; election2016; elections; guncontrol; guns; newyork; secondamendment; somuchnotcarson; trump
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To: DoodleDawg
What about state laws that prevent convicted felons from obtaining firearms? Would President Trump work to force states to repeal those?

That is a tough call.

On the one hand, owning firearms is a Constitutionally protected right. If you are convicted of a felony, serve your time, is your "debt to society" paid? Should you not then be allowed to resume a normal place in society?

On the other hand, when convicted of a felony that conviction carries with it severe penalties and punishments. You give up a lot of basic rights while incarcerated. You may be incarcerated for life without hope of parole - in effect losing those rights for the rest of your life. In that light you can look at losing the right to own firearms as part of the punishment even if you are no longer incarcerated.

21 posted on 11/23/2015 6:32:13 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: impimp

Yeah, it’s right there in the text of the 2nd Amendment - shall not be infringed, except by states, counties, and local municipalities.


22 posted on 11/23/2015 6:32:33 AM PST by Bob (No, being a US Senator and the Secretary of State are not accomplishments; they're jobs.)
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To: impimp

I agree with you but not for the reason you cite. The brilliant thing about the USA is that states can compete against each other when it comes to legal issues which effect quality of life. The truth is that some people do not deserve to be free...meaning that all of the do gooders and wannabe commie socialists DO NOT DESERVE FREEDOM. They fight it at every turn. They shall reap the whirlwind, and the rest of us understand the dangers when encroaching on their territory.


23 posted on 11/23/2015 6:35:16 AM PST by gr8eman (Don't waste your energy trying to understand commies. Use it to defeat them!)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Yes it does. You have no idea what you are talking about.

From wiki:

Colonies with no established church[edit]
The Province of Pennsylvania was founded by Quakers, but the colony never had an established church.
The Province of New Jersey, without official religion, had a significant Quaker lobby, but Calvinists of all types also had a presence.
Delaware Colony had no established church, but was contested between Catholics and Quakers.
The Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations, founded by religious dissenters forced to flee the Massachusetts Bay colony, is widely regarded as the first polity to grant religious freedom to all its citizens, although Catholics were barred intermittently. Baptists, Seekers/Quakers and Jews made this colony their home. The King Charles Charter of 1663 guaranteed “full liberty in religious concernments”.
Tabular summary[edit]
Colony Denomination Disestablished[note 1]
Connecticut Congregational 1818[54]
Georgia Church of England 1789[note 2]
Maryland Church of England 1776
Massachusetts Congregational 1834 (parish church system)[note 3]
New Brunswick Church of England
New Hampshire Congregational 1790[note 4]
Newfoundland Church of England
North Carolina Church of England 1776[note 5]
Nova Scotia Church of England 1850
Prince Edward Island Church of England
South Carolina Church of England 1790
Canada West Church of England 1854
West Florida Church of England[note 6] 1783[note 7]
East Florida Church of England[note 6] 1783[note 7]
Virginia Church of England 1786[note 8]
West Indies Church of England 1868 (Barbados, not until 1969)
Jump up ^ In several colonies, the establishment ceased to exist in practice at the Revolution, about 1776;[53] this is the date of permanent legal abolition.
Jump up ^ In 1789 the Georgia Constitution was amended as follows: “Article IV. Section 10. No person within this state shall, upon any pretense, be deprived of the inestimable privilege of worshipping God in any manner agreeable to his own conscience, nor be compelled to attend any place of worship contrary to his own faith and judgment; nor shall he ever be obliged to pay tithes, taxes, or any other rate, for the building or repairing any place of worship, or for the maintenance of any minister or ministry, contrary to what he believes to be right, or hath voluntarily engaged. To do. No one religious society shall ever be established in this state, in preference to another; nor shall any person be denied the enjoyment of any civil right merely on account of his religious principles.”
Jump up ^ From 1780 to 1824, Massachusetts residents were all required to attend a parish church, the denomination of which was chosen by majority vote of town residents, but in effect this de facto established Congregationalism as the state religion. For details see Constitution of Massachusetts.


24 posted on 11/23/2015 6:37:41 AM PST by impimp
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To: xzins

What about all those people who don’t bear arms? Can Donald do something about that?


25 posted on 11/23/2015 6:37:58 AM PST by Lisbon1940 (No full-term governors)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

The basis of this guys campaign is to say what we all know. Only difference is that he has the balls to say it. That is a significant portion of leadership.


26 posted on 11/23/2015 6:39:49 AM PST by When do we get liberated? (A socialist is a communist who realizes he must suckle the breast of Capitalism.)
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To: jimjohn; xzins

It was released on The Trump campaign website on or about September 18th.

http://conservativetribune.com/trump-plan-2nd-amendment/


27 posted on 11/23/2015 6:45:13 AM PST by smoothsailing
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To: xzins
"Furthermore, Trump proposed a national right to carry, a national concealed carry reciprocity law that would compel states to recognize the concealed carry permits of any other state, exactly as drivers licenses from anywhere are accepted by all states today."

Suck on that, ISIS. And college hothouse Marxists.

28 posted on 11/23/2015 6:47:04 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7H)
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To: xzins

Mr. Trump, welcome to the party. I hope that after November you will remain conservative firebrand.


29 posted on 11/23/2015 6:50:29 AM PST by DaveyB (Live free or die!)
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To: impimp
The 10th amendment actually says this:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

That 10th amendment does not mean that the states get to have an established religion or deny free exercise. Freedom of religion for all people was the intent, so it never was a state power just because it was not a national power. It was a power reserved to the people.

That some states tried to take such power is mitigated by the fact that they were forced to stop.

30 posted on 11/23/2015 6:58:58 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: DoodleDawg

Conviction for felonies usually entails as punishment a curtailment of natural rights — indeed all punishments for crimes are curtailments of natural or civil rights (right to freedom of movement in the case of imprisonment, right to property in the case of fines).


31 posted on 11/23/2015 7:01:44 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: xzins

Why is it the. States are prohibited from violating our rights to Freedom of speech,Assembly and freedom of Religion but our most important freedom. Is violated everyday.Thats the right to keep and bear arms.

Why hasn’t this been adjudicated yet?

It seems as plain as day even a Liberal English professor should be able to figure it out.


32 posted on 11/23/2015 7:01:50 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: puppypusher

There has long been a cabal that knew that to overthrow this country they’d have to get guns out of the hands of the people.

Even a fighter pilot or a tanker need to get out and eat, sleep, and relieve themselves.

It’s hard to bomb 325 million people.


33 posted on 11/23/2015 7:04:07 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: xzins

Actually, until judicial decisions interpreted the 14th amendment as extending prohibitions in the 1st amendment to the states (bizarre since it specifies “Congress shall not”, but that’s the precedent we’ve had for a long time), states were free to have established religions. Some did for a while. Massachusetts and Connecticut both had Congregationalist Calvinism as their established religion until 1854 and 1818, respectively (with Massachusetts mandating church attendance until 1824). North Carolina and New Hampshire both had requirements that all officeholders be protestants well into the 19th century.


34 posted on 11/23/2015 7:11:06 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: humblegunner; darkwing104; Darksheare; Col Freeper; Viking2002; shibumi
SNIFF
35 posted on 11/23/2015 7:11:17 AM PST by Old Sarge
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To: xzins

“Furthermore, Trump proposed a national right to carry, a national concealed carry reciprocity law that would compel states to recognize the concealed carry permits of any other state, exactly as drivers licenses from anywhere are accepted by all states today.”

Excellent! This, coupled with his saying those with a CCW ought to carry as often as possible, means he wants the populous armed. Compare this to the socialist plan of keeping the sheeple dependent and helpless.


36 posted on 11/23/2015 7:12:42 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: impimp

“I think he should respect the 10th Amendment and let the gun grabbing states continue to grab guns. “

The 10th only gives states rights not expressly given to the government. The 2nd supersedes the 10th.


37 posted on 11/23/2015 7:14:13 AM PST by CottonBall
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To: The_Reader_David

Despite that, the intent of the Bill of Rights was personal and not corporate. Every freedom is a personal freedom.

YOU have a right to a gun.
YOU have a right to speak your piece.
etc.

Therefore, the 10th amendment is the proper interpretation whether those other states immediately recognized it or not.

I’m not disputing that states did so. I’m saying they were taking a power not given to them.


38 posted on 11/23/2015 7:21:21 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: CottonBall

Fortress America


39 posted on 11/23/2015 7:22:52 AM PST by xzins (HAVE YOU DONATED TO THE FREEPATHON? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: jimjohn

yes. About Sept 18th


40 posted on 11/23/2015 7:28:52 AM PST by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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