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Democrats are in denial. Their party is actually in deep trouble.
Vox ^ | 10/19 | Matthew Yglesias

Posted on 10/19/2015 8:41:19 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

Yes, Barack Obama is taking a victory lap in his seventh year in office. Yes, Republicans can't find a credible candidate to so much as run for speaker of the House. Yes, the GOP presidential field is led by a megalomaniacal reality TV star. All this is true — but rather than lay the foundation for enduring Democratic success, all it's done is breed a wrongheaded atmosphere of complacence.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016election; dems
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To: 100American

So it’s so concise and important, perhaps you’d distill it for us in one short sentence.


21 posted on 10/19/2015 9:31:17 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SamAdams76

Here’s hoping. I really want to see a complete repudiation of the government and party status quo. One they can’t possibly misinterpret, by damn.


22 posted on 10/19/2015 9:33:02 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Lorianne

“No, it’s not a waste of time.
We need to invest time in knowing what the other side is thinking so we can counter them in political discussions and win debates and ultimately elections.”

I will guarantee you that the average conservative is infinitely more educated about issues and world events than any dim. I can also make a good bet that if you were to put a lib and a conservative together in a debating competition wherr the conservative has to debate as a lib, and the lib has to debate as a conservative, it would become very apparent very fast that conservatives know vastly more about lib arguments than vice versa. The problem is libs always argue like this

Conservative: any conservative point
Lib: memorized talking point #1 designed to sound almost reasonable if not examined closely
Conservative: responds with citable facts figures and statistics
Lib: memorized talking point #2, designed to distract away from the topic at hand, with enough “humor”’ that subtly makes the conservative look not only appear ignorant but stupid. This works best when the lib has other libs nearby that can be riled up.

3: conservative undetered returns to original topic discussion with more fact
Lib: changes subject more forcefully, starts using blatant ad-hominems questioning humanity of conservative. Charges of racism, sexism, and every other conceivale ism come out with a list of allegedly horrible things distqnt ancestors may or may not have done, with a modern list of alledged attrocities comitted by evil corporations and the koch brothers that I am indirectly responsible for because of white priveledge

There is only one thing in this world more fruitless than arguing with a liberal. That is Winning an argument with a woman..that should be the definition of “pyrrhic victory”


23 posted on 10/19/2015 9:38:16 AM PDT by dsrtsage (One half of all people have below average IQ. In the US the number is 54%)
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To: Gaffer

Although the author is in denial about Trump, he knows his lib movement is in trouble at the state level throughout most of the country.

It’s actually good he is in denial about Trump: he underestimates just how badly his team is doing.


24 posted on 10/19/2015 9:40:26 AM PDT by Vision Thing ("Community Organizer" is a shorter way of saying "Commie Unity Organizer".)
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To: Starboard

Republicans have the House, the Senate, most State governorships and most State legislatures...

Democrats are losing across the board... yet their idiots followers think they’re winning.

It’s irrational... makes no sense. Do you have any idea how they can be so clueless?


25 posted on 10/19/2015 9:41:09 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrats want gun legislation? Fine. Pass a Bill outlawing 'gun free' zones.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

As far as I am concerned, the Democrat Party, complete with Democrats, can disappear into thin air. Both are agents of Satan.


26 posted on 10/19/2015 9:44:55 AM PDT by sport
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To: GOPJ

On the national level Democrats are still winning. They are still spending with abandon, the government gets bigger everyday, and all manner of liberal programs continue to get passed and funded by the congress. Even worse, the congress does nothing to constrain an out of control executive which makes laws with a pen, a phone and memos. The executive agencies write an endless stream of regulations which have the effect of law. And all these actions support the progressive agenda.

I wouldn’t say that Democrats are losing at all. They have gotten nearly everything they’ve wanted for the past six years. Republicans have handed it to them on a silver platter.


27 posted on 10/19/2015 9:49:56 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starboard

The DIMs “in deep trouble”? These antiFreedom criminals should be “in deep prison cells”.


28 posted on 10/19/2015 9:52:08 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: DoodleDawg

Who needs a bench? 8 years of Hillary, then 8 years of Julian Castro, then 8 years of Chelsea gets them to 2040. By then Texas will be a reliable Democrat state because of illegal immigration.


29 posted on 10/19/2015 9:55:53 AM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Gaffer

Well you’ve moved the goalposts haven’t you”
Now your argument is that YOU find it a waste of time ... no argument there. That’s up to you

But others may not, so posting it here makes it easy to access. This does not mean you have to read it.


30 posted on 10/19/2015 9:58:23 AM PDT by Lorianne
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To: TangledUpInBlue

[[Democrats are in denial. Their party is actually in deep trouble.]]

Never ever underestimate the ignorance of the ‘gimmedat’ society we live in today-


31 posted on 10/19/2015 10:32:33 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Nervous Tick

I thought so too and stumbled on it via Flipboard. I don’t normally read Vox.


32 posted on 10/19/2015 10:32:42 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: HarleyLady27
So this is why my support goes to Trump, he makes deals, he runs multi billion dollar companies, and owns them, with someone as brilliant as this, I want someone to put America on its feet again....

I support Trump too, but I wouldn't call him brilliant. To me he represents the empowerment of common sense, and the personal strength and integrity to support his own understanding and convictions in the face of group disapproval. Donald's saving grace is that it doesn't bother him one single bit to be the sole dissenter out of a group of people. If they don't make sense to him, he rejects them. In these days of universal collective whoredom, that's as rare as a diamond.

33 posted on 10/19/2015 11:19:45 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Gaffer
Here is the meat of the article, the GOP controls from the State level on down and they know as long as we hold it they are DOA ...

Democrats have been obliterated at the state level

The worst part of the problem for the Democratic Party is in races that are, collectively, the most important: state government.

Elections for state legislature rarely make the national news, but they are the fundamental building blocks of American politics. Since they run the redistricting process for the US House of Representatives and for themselves, they are where the greatest level of electoral entrenchment is possible.

And in the wake of the 2014 midterms, Republicans have overwhelming dominance of America's state legislatures.

In what Democrats should take as a further bleak sign, four of the 11 states where they control both houses of the state legislature — Maryland, New Jersey, Massachusetts, and Illinois — have a Republican governor. This leaves just seven states under unified Democratic Party control.

Republicans have unified control of 25 states. Along with the usual set of tax cuts for high-income individuals and business-friendly regulations, the result has been:

An unprecedented wave of restrictions on abortion rights
The spread of union-hostile “right to work” laws into the Great Lakes states
New curbs on voting rights, to further tilt the electorate in a richer, whiter, older direction
Large-scale layoffs of teachers and other public sector workers who are likely to support Democrats
Admittedly, one of the Democrats’ seven states is California, which contains more than 10 percent of the nation's total population. But Texas and Florida combine for more people than the Golden State, and the GOP also dominates Ohio, Georgia, and North Carolina — all of which are among the 10 largest states by population. Democrats’ largest non-California bastion of unified control is Oregon, home to only about one percent of the American people.*

As of 2012 or so, Democrats thought they had a solution to this. Hard-right GOP governors in places like Wisconsin and Florida had become unpopular and were clearly overreaching — reading a wave driven by the poor economy in 2010 as an ideological mandate for sweeping conservative policy change. And that worked in Pennsylvania's 2014 gubernatorial election — Tom Wolf rode a backlash against then-Gov. Tom Corbett's hard-right policies to victory. But Scott Walker, Rick Scott, Rick Snyder, and even Maine's Paul LePage were all reelected. And while the old plan didn't pan out, no new one has risen to take its place.

34 posted on 10/19/2015 11:37:55 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: 100American

“...Gov. Tom Corbett’s hard-right policies “

Dude, you don’t know what your talking about regarding Corbetts loss to the rat Wolf in Pennsylvania. Corbett was thrown out because of his massive RINO-like decision to raise the gasoline tax 28 cents per gallon to fund mass transit in Philadelphia. Also many people were angry at him for supporting the ouster of Joe Paterno at Penn State university. I predict Wolf will be thrown out when he is up for reelection.


35 posted on 10/19/2015 12:08:29 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Flavious_Maximus

Did I post that?

If it was part of the excerpt I cautioned readers to take what of value they could (I said hold your nose)but it was never portrayed by me as gospel truth


36 posted on 10/19/2015 12:29:59 PM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: Nervous Tick
The Clinton Mafia vs. the Obama Chicago Mob... Hard core Euro-Socialists vs. more traditional pragmatic Dems... Blacks vs. Hispanics

How does one pick a side? Can they ALL lose?

Something like Shiite vs. Sunni.

37 posted on 10/20/2015 5:46:14 AM PDT by spokeshave (MDSM = Mentally Discombobulated Screaming Media)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I love the part about the GOP not being in lock step. It is what will keep the power in the States and out of the Federal government. We are a huge country with a diverse population and physical landscape.. I for one am happy to see robust debate going on within the party. It is far more freedom oriented than the centralized control freaks of the Democrat party.


38 posted on 10/20/2015 6:08:11 AM PDT by EBH ( “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Here is what stood out to me:

The presidency is extremely important, of course. But there are also thousands of critically important offices all the way down the ballot. And the vast majority — 70 percent of state legislatures, more than 60 percent of governors, 55 percent of attorneys general and secretaries of stateare in Republicans hands. And, of course, Republicans control both chambers of Congress.

Yet one more Obama legacy of destruction.

The implications are enormous. It appears Trump me lead the nation back from the brink.

39 posted on 09/24/2016 5:50:05 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion
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