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The Cold Anger of Republicans
Commentary ^ | OCT. 6, 2015 | PETER WEHNER

Posted on 10/06/2015 3:55:16 PM PDT by robowombat

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To: robowombat
This one sentence tells me this person is so full of it that reading it becomes worthless:

As for the situation with illegal immigration, in recent years net migration from Mexico has fallen to zero, and perhaps less.

What a pant load.

41 posted on 10/06/2015 4:33:05 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: robowombat

Another establishment supporter fearful of undoing entrenched elites who have contributed nothing towards resolving our national problems. Although I agree with some of his points, on the whole I still support Trump because he is the best Anti-Establishment candidate.

And I hate Boehner, McCain and their entitled cronies as much as I do the Democrats.


42 posted on 10/06/2015 4:39:33 PM PDT by ZULU (Mt. McKinley is the tallest mountain in N. America. Denali is Aleut for "scam artist.")
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To: robowombat
You are correct about the writer choosing his subjects with exquisite care. However, he needs to be correct about the focus of that anger if he is to do this, and he isn't.

In simple fact, Congress absolutely can defund 0bamacare by a majority vote. And there is a Republican majority, and that's one reason why there is a Republican majority. And they didn't deliver. We had a "55 attempts to stop 0bamacare" institutional Kabuki-dance that fooled no one in the electorate. And we're angry that they tried to fool us. That was the political establishment grandly declaiming to the Little People that they simply didn't know how the system works, and the conclusion we drew - correctly, in my estimation - is that "the system" is not working as designed due to corruption. And the people corrupting it are the people who are patting us on the head and telling us that everything's OK.

There is quite a bit more to Republican anger than that. We're angry about the silence, about the supine submission to the kulturkampf being waged in the media and the Executive department - the armed services turned into a smirking cauldron of political correctness with nary a word of protest on the part of our elected representatives, the organs of the IRS and the EPA being turned into ideological war machines, the steady and inexorable increase in federal control over education, transportation, and economics. All of this could have been at least protested by establishment Republicans and the crystal-clear perception is that with a very few signal exceptions, they were not.

The real difficulty is that establishment Republicans and establishment Democrats are now simply the Establishment, and so anger directed thereto no longer differentiates between the parties since the parties do not appear to differentiate between one another. This is not a phenomenon restricted to the last two, or five, or even twenty years. It reached a flashpoint when the establishment, including the news and entertainment media, decided to inflict a New Normal and enforce it through the power of the state. Elected representatives of both parties have been far too silent, far too obedient, far too unrepresentative in the face of this not to excite a level of outrage and far too arrogant or unperceptive to sense it now that it's happening. It should not be a surprise to the author and it isn't going to be assuaged by a glib dismissal.

43 posted on 10/06/2015 4:40:29 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Robert DeLong
"What a pant load."

Mexico is empty, now the rest of central and south america is moving north.

44 posted on 10/06/2015 4:43:55 PM PDT by Flag_This (You can't spell "treason" without the "O".)
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To: robowombat

Same old straw man arguments totally ignoring the stupid Corker Bill which empowered Obama, totally ignoring the attempted betrayals ala the Chamber of Commerce on amnesty. Also we all damn well know that without Trump they would be trying to sell us a pig in a poke on immigration like Rubio tried to do with his buddy Chuck Schumer and of course Jeb is still trying to sell the same pig just with promises to secure the border that we know damn well he has no intention to keep. Also many want to expand h1b1s and work visas. I mean what don’t these guys understand? They want to know why there is a “cold anger” its because they won’t do a damn thing even rhetorically to stand up to lawless Obama or his lawless Supreme court. They could censor him, they could actually send him bills to veto, they could censor members of the high court when they rule like they did on ssm and obamacare.

I’m not so concerned about shutting down the Government but the truth is we need to stop preemptively surrendering and stop playing by rules that the Democrats ignore to get their agenda put into law. The GOP needs to be as damn ruthless and willing to use brute power to undo the illegitimate laws that Obama and the Democrats broke the law to force through such as the totally illegal reconciliation process. We need leadership that will go to war to stop the left or else we will not stop them. We will simply tinker around the edges while they break all the rules to get their way.


45 posted on 10/06/2015 4:49:36 PM PDT by Maelstorm (America wasn't founded with the battle cry give me Liberty or cut me a government check!".)
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To: Flag_This

They still come through Mexico.


46 posted on 10/06/2015 4:50:54 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: robowombat
As for the claim that the GOP Congress keeps rolling over and giving President Obama everything he wants, it’s simply wrong. What exactly has Mr. Obama gotten through since Republicans have controlled Congress? What large new initiative has he passed? The answer, of course, is nothing.

Bullcrap. They were elected on the promise to defund Obamacare and his illegal EO amnesty. Then the first thing they did, before even the new members were sworn in was to pass a CR funding everything, so as to prevent any defunding effort. Obama gets 100% of everything he wants in the budget, because he threatens to shut down government and blame them. And the GOP is so cowardly and inept that they refuse to even consider fighting and telling the Amereican people that it's Obama who is shutting down government over some tiny fraction he won't get. They have internalized the enemy's propaganda and just accept it. Moreover they really don't care, as long as they keep their jobs. That's why we hate them.

47 posted on 10/06/2015 4:53:31 PM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: Robert DeLong

It seems to me that the primary intention of this article is to misrepresent and insult Donald Trump. I think we are not only in a battle for our country, but in a battle for the soul our political party. The battle for the democrat party’s soul is lost, and we are headed in the same direction, their party has already lost its soul, and we are headed in the same direction. How do we deal with this, other than by supporting Donald Trump and hoping that he, with enough support, can make them all go away. If we cannot do this, then we must must must must join/start another political party, it may already be too late!


48 posted on 10/06/2015 4:54:42 PM PDT by erkelly
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To: robowombat

If PETER WEHNER was a serious person, his column would be directed at the elites. He would be warning them that the “masses” have been pushed too far.


49 posted on 10/06/2015 5:04:55 PM PDT by donna (Pray for Revival.)
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To: robowombat

In other words, don’t believe your lying eyes.


50 posted on 10/06/2015 5:16:16 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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So even if Republicans had held firm on shutting down the government – and the public overwhelmingly opposed the shutdown and overwhelmingly blamed Republican for it...

Yes, the public was so angry with the Pubbies that they completely wiped out the Dems all the way down to dog catcher in 2014. This guy is delusional.

51 posted on 10/06/2015 5:31:32 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (Those that can, do, those that can't, work in the Beltway.)
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To: Boogieman
it would be not passing any spending bills that included funding for it that would defund it. The government shutting down would just be the inevitable consequence of Obama refusing to sign those spending bills.

The trick is to spread out the appropriations bills. Pass more or less clean bills for
. . .
Agriculture;
Commerce; Justice, and Science;
Defense;
Energy and Water;
Financial Services;
Homeland Security;
Interior and Environment;
Legislative;
Military and Veterans; and
State and Foreign Operations
. . .
at least ten days before they get to the problematic ones. If Obama vetoes them, he's shutting down the government. If not, they go into effect after ten days, and before the key bills are voted on.

Then it's not the entire bloated and dangerous FedGov at risk, just
. . .
Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education; and then
Transportation and Housing and Urban Development
. . .
The leverage there is a whole lot more favorable than with all the spending bills at once. Boehner and McConnell don't want to do things that way, but I'm hoping the remaining Tea Party members who haven't been bought out will push for that path. At that point, if we pass a bill that specifically bans all spending for Obamacare and Planned Parenthood, but funds everything else, Obama would be either giving decent Americans what we want by letting it go into law, or betraying his parasitic followers by shutting down the least useful parts of FedGov. I'm okay with either option.

52 posted on 10/06/2015 5:47:24 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: robowombat

Faux conservative posers are so clearly transparent.

Your verbal junk doesn’t work anymore. Next.


53 posted on 10/06/2015 5:49:44 PM PDT by polymuser ( Enough is enough)
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To: robowombat

The GOP-e can go to hell.I had it with them in 2014 when they surrendered again to Obama on the health care bill.They can do whatever they like since I’m now an independent.

Lets see hoe they’re going to escape from this mess they created.Making McCarthy Speaker will just make it worse.


54 posted on 10/06/2015 6:02:25 PM PDT by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: SmokingJoe

“This fool will need to listen to Ted Cruz’s speech before the US Senate during the Planned Parenthood debacle to get an idea on what is actually going on and why conservatives are angry with Boehner and McConnell.”

How can anyone who thinks they are a journalist not know the details Cruz spoke so passionately about? The MSM are just like the education system- ignorant and wanting everyone to remain that way.


55 posted on 10/06/2015 6:03:10 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: robowombat

Just another establishment puke spouting off. In this case, he notes it proudly.

You just can’t fix stupid.


56 posted on 10/06/2015 6:05:16 PM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Voting is like choosing whether you'd prefer the crips or MS-13 to take over your neighborhood.)
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To: robowombat

This is just another blah, blah, blah apologist piece for the GOP establishment.


57 posted on 10/06/2015 7:10:35 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: Billthedrill

+1


58 posted on 10/06/2015 10:31:34 PM PDT by Pelham (A refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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