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So the Oregon shooter’s guns were legal. Now what?
Hotair ^ | 10/04/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/04/2015 6:15:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 10/04/2015 6:15:21 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Politicians of all stripes don’t want real solutions to problems.

If problems are solved, people might begin to think politicians aren’t needed.


2 posted on 10/04/2015 6:19:10 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Biology is biology. Everything else is imagination.)
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To: SeekAndFind

B.S. article.

The “good guy with a gun”......the security officer.....did NOT have a gun. The author of the article is ignorant.

He says women don’t like guns, when the facts show that more and more women are purchasing firearms.


3 posted on 10/04/2015 6:21:42 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Liberals are like the Taliban and ISIS....destroying cultural icons they don't like.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I can’t find a reference now but it was reported that his mother took him shooting. I speculate that she may have purchased one or more guns for him. This makes for an interesting parallel to the Newtown shooter. Hyper-indulgent mother supplies guns and facilitates training to known disturbed son.


4 posted on 10/04/2015 6:23:09 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Socialism consumes EVERYTHING)
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To: SeekAndFind

Stay safe. Stay armed.


5 posted on 10/04/2015 6:23:21 AM PDT by basil ( God bless the USA!)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Yep, I have two handguns and a couple of rifles.


6 posted on 10/04/2015 6:26:20 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: Paine in the Neck

Oddly similar circumstances, it would seem.


7 posted on 10/04/2015 6:26:35 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Paine in the Neck

If you are on social security disability for a mental illness I think you should not be allowed to own a gun

Poor Chris Mintz son has autism according to published reports. He will also face this issue since I am sure he is a gun proponent.


8 posted on 10/04/2015 6:27:35 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: SeekAndFind

So are they trying to say anything over ten makes you a psycho killer?


9 posted on 10/04/2015 6:28:55 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: SeekAndFind

The fundamental question to answer with specifics IF all the weapons were traced back to a FFL is WHO filled out the Form 4473 for the purchase? Were any or all of them gifted to the son (there is a Form 4473 stipulation for this)?

This article doesn’t discuss that, and it is entirely possible that the mother was the one that purchased them. If so, she is open to liability if she allowed her son free access to them - especially if she had provable cause for concern over his behavioral state.

I ‘gifted’ some firearms to my daughter and my son-in-law. The first thing I required both of them to do was to obtain a weapons carry license and to take a basic handgun training course (classroom and range). Due diligence.


10 posted on 10/04/2015 6:28:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: SeekAndFind

Simple fix: Ban no-gun zones.

Meanwhile, just do not go to places that ban guns.


11 posted on 10/04/2015 6:30:17 AM PDT by CPOSharky (I was born with nothing, and I still have most of it.)
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To: SkyDancer

Me, too. But strictly for hunting...home invaders. ;)


12 posted on 10/04/2015 6:30:19 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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13 posted on 10/04/2015 6:31:15 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: The Toll

I once killed a rabid Groundhog with a shovel. Ban shovels! :)


14 posted on 10/04/2015 6:34:10 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Negative. The security guard was in fact unarmed. They’re referring to another student, across the campus, who was in fact armed. He chose to remain in place. His reasoning was 1) He wasnt’ a cop and 2) He didn’t want to be misidentified as the active shooter. He acted purdently.


15 posted on 10/04/2015 6:34:34 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.greenhornshooting.com - Professional handgun training.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One (1) security guard, armed or unarmed is not going to make a difference. especially if that guard is on one side of the campus and the shooter is on the other.

As I posed yeaterday;
1) Anyone who can qualify for a CCE permit should be allowed to carry on any public campus whether University, Community College, public school. This includes any teacher that can qualify.

2) Have a desk and computer terminal in every public school for cops to stop off and finish up end of shift and other paperwork. This means police car on scene at schools off and on every day and most important at odd times.

To me this is an easy cheap approach, not a fix but a start. However since we are dealing with bureaucrats and politicians here, cheap and easy will never even be discussed, only the very expensive and damn near impossible.


16 posted on 10/04/2015 6:35:56 AM PDT by Tupelo (Honest men may go to Washington, but Honest men do not stay in Wahington.)
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To: The Toll

I was talking to a dealer at a gun show and they recently went to a house in PA and purchased the deceased husband’s gun collection.

He had something like 900 guns throughout his home.

That is now my goal.


17 posted on 10/04/2015 6:36:40 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (war is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength, obama loves America)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I started to always carry when I’m out and about. I bought a nice .40 S&W Shield, cop style - no safety to worry about.


18 posted on 10/04/2015 6:38:17 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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To: GeorgiaDawg32

Not only purdently but also prudently. (Need more coffee).


19 posted on 10/04/2015 6:38:35 AM PDT by GeorgiaDawg32 (www.greenhornshooting.com - Professional handgun training.)
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To: SeekAndFind

If the shooter’s guns were legal, libs would not see that as a proof that gun laws don’t work, but that the laws aren’t strong enough. So I’m not sure why conservatives keep bringing this up.


20 posted on 10/04/2015 6:39:02 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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