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So the Oregon shooter’s guns were legal. Now what?
Hotair ^ | 10/04/2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 10/04/2015 6:15:20 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin
Tertiary solution, find a way to be able to find individuals who are unstable either on the record or off the record (public reporting) and make sure that where they live they have no access, limited access or controlled access to weapons. The public reporting would be rife with problems with many reporting someone they simply don't like as being unstable instead of reporting someone who actually might be a danger. That process would have to be refined.

Vindictive reporting would be a serious problem. Leftists would tend to report conservatives as "unstable". There would be organized efforts by the Left to identify "right wingers" and ensure they could not be armed.

One possibly-objective approach would be to focus on people with no history of stable employment. (But that might be deemed raaaacist...)

61 posted on 10/04/2015 7:56:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: GeorgiaDawg32
When I carry, I have either a 5-shot 38 revolver or a 5-shot 22 derringer. Either way, it is a last ditch self-defense weapon to protect me and my family.

This is NOT what a sane person uses to go hunting a guy with body armor and multiple weapons, particularly if any cop in the area might mistake him for the bad guy:


62 posted on 10/04/2015 7:59:14 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Can you remember what America was like in 2004?)
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To: Logical me


63 posted on 10/04/2015 8:00:40 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: SeekAndFind
So we are left with the “answer” put forward by both Mark Halperin and Mika Brzezinski when challenged by Charles C.W. Cooke: somebody needs to do something… but we just don’t know what it is.

When in doubt, run in circles, scream and shout!

Regards,
GtG

64 posted on 10/04/2015 8:09:06 AM PDT by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, but it's OK. They all know me here.)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Lying is like breathing to leftists and liberals, and particularly to democrats.


65 posted on 10/04/2015 8:19:30 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Is it really all relative, Mister Einstein?)
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To: gorush

Although our beloved Bammie Hussein is into Australian/UK gun control, he leaves out one key ingredient: total national level registration of all guns and licensing of all owners.

The police in those countries already know who owns what, so one day they just crook their finger at guns owners & say, “Turn them in or be arrested”.

Can’t do that in America, yet. Only Katrina-style searches for weapons in all homes by SWATing entire neighborhoods, which could result in mass civil disobedience or even insurrection.

In 2000 two presidential Democrats called for licensing & registration, Bill Bradley & Al Gore. They lost.

Registration equals confiscation & both sides know that. The showcase states of NY, NJ, CT, & CA provide ample evidence of destruction of civil liberties where guns are concerned.

I’d love to see Bammie call for national licensing & registration. Would love it.


66 posted on 10/04/2015 8:23:16 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

So you were wrong


67 posted on 10/04/2015 8:27:50 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass (There should be a whole lot more going on than throwing bleach, said one woman.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

“So you were wrong.”

Not entirely, but as I mentioned in post 172 of this thread, if Chaffetz has a conservative rating of 82, that is an encouraging sign.

My concern stems from his comment that he would be able to bring together centrists in the party and the “right wing,” or “the extreme right wing.”

It surprises me to hear a conservative use that term. It’s usually the left who likes to use the term “right-wing” as a perjorative.

I would think Chaffetz would be light years better than Boehner. Boehner set the bar pretty low.


68 posted on 10/04/2015 8:55:24 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Liberals are like the Taliban and ISIS....destroying cultural icons they don't like.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

Disregard my post # 68. Wrong thread.

I thought you were commenting about the Sunday morning Talk Show thread.

What was I wrong about, exactly?


69 posted on 10/04/2015 8:58:43 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Liberals are like the Taliban and ISIS....destroying cultural icons they don't like.)
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To: gorush

And that radicalized Muslim 15 year old was one that kept his gun in order to shot at an Australian police station last week must have forced the debate again-—I hope.


70 posted on 10/04/2015 9:00:13 AM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: JoeProBono

In the “white” image, it looks like they photoshopped his nose and made his lips thinner.


71 posted on 10/04/2015 9:18:08 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Liberals are like the Taliban and ISIS....destroying cultural icons they don't like.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Now you bury the dead, chalk ‘em up to a victim disarmament zone, and possibly to mental illness or the drugs used to treat it, and march on.
Folks die every day. Get over it.


72 posted on 10/04/2015 9:43:23 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oregon shooter’s father says UK gun bans are what is needed in the U.S.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/03/oregon-shooters-father-says-what-could-have-prevented-his-shooting-rampage-what-right-do-you-have/


73 posted on 10/04/2015 10:24:40 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: SkyDancer
My favorite is my dad’s WW2 .30 carbine.

That is a great little tool but nowadays is underappreciated as there are not too many around - unlike the ubiquitous AR-15. The .30 carbine is about perfect for those who are recoil-adverse or of a smaller stature yet need an effective rifle. It is pretty useful with iron sights out to around 200 meters or so and is very reliable and reasonably hard-hitting.

As a testament to it's effectiveness, our own government recently prohibited the importation and sale of a large number of these which the Korean government arsenal wanted to sell to our civilian market. But, as our betters In Washington deemed this 75 year old weapon as a deadly "assault rifle" we are not permitted to buy them.

Get an AR-15 type while you still can. With a collapsible stock, a 16" barrel, a decent optical sight, and a handful of good magazines you can be in business for less than $700 and the 0bama regime can stick it's gun rules up it's own @$$...

74 posted on 10/04/2015 10:41:25 AM PDT by Gritty (The question is not will Muslim migrants kill Americans but how many will they kill?-D.Greenfield)
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To: SeekAndFind

The guns were purchased legally but carrying them loaded into the school and shooting people were GROSSLY ILLEGAL. The news media doesn’t mention that.


75 posted on 10/04/2015 11:03:46 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Actually he’s talking about a veteran student with a concealed carry permit I saw interviewed by Hannity. He was at the Veterans Lounge when the shooting broke out. He and about six other vets wanted to go help (he didn’t know if any of them were armed), when the school administrator told them not to go, and insisted they go in a room and lock down. And it was legal for him to have a gun there. The school has a gun free zone rule, but state law overrides that and allows CCR holders to carry guns in schools.


76 posted on 10/04/2015 11:06:49 AM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: Hugin

Make that CCL.


77 posted on 10/04/2015 11:17:15 AM PDT by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: SeekAndFind

“... first and easiest guns to confiscate would belong to law abiding owners.”

Not freaking likely, not anymore.


78 posted on 10/04/2015 11:27:15 AM PDT by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: Steve_Seattle
If the shooter’s guns were legal...

In most states legal guns do not require paperwork of any kind unless bought from an FFL dealer.

79 posted on 10/04/2015 11:31:17 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Gritty

My dad bought his at a Big 5 store in WA, brand new, made by IA (Israeli Arms)- I’ve fired it many times and it was great.


80 posted on 10/04/2015 11:43:09 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Nobody Said I Was Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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