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Poll: Fiorina takes lead in New Hampshire post-debate
The Hill ^ | 9/18/2015 | Mark Hensch

Posted on 09/19/2015 7:16:56 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

A Voter Gravity Poll [link at URL] released Friday shows Fiorina with 22 percent support among Granite State GOP Primary voters. She has a 4-point edge over her nearest competitor, billionaire Donald Trump, who has 18 percent support. ...

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New Hampshire; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2016election; bencarson; brokenrecord; california; carlyfiorina; carson; cruz; election2016; fiorina; ibtz; ilovetowhine; newhampshire; newyork; tedcruz; thedonald; trump; waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

It is painfully obvious that the GOPe wants Fiorina to be the VP candidate.


21 posted on 09/19/2015 7:31:02 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (American Jobs for American Workers)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

I don’t want a someone you can make grand speeches that the consulting class media swoons over! I want someone who is a fighter & a doer! That person, I believe is Don Trump!


22 posted on 09/19/2015 7:33:07 AM PDT by Lopeover (2016 Election is about allegiance to the United States)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Are you really this ignorant, or do you just play the part of an ignoramus?


23 posted on 09/19/2015 7:33:19 AM PDT by Catsrus (Trump/Cruz - the only 2 worth voting for. I callz 'em as I seez 'em.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
She is better than The Donald, that is for sure, ...

Karl Rove, is that you?

24 posted on 09/19/2015 7:33:32 AM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

a little fiorina history - def worth 3 min of your time ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2lDIHyqo7Q

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ak4CucL-jUE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C21iWn1sU7o

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUGKd0W6Gi8


25 posted on 09/19/2015 7:33:35 AM PDT by true believer forever (Lord, Give me this mountain.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

She manipulated it out of the park. It was not solid, it was contrived and built on sand. She is a great talker but she says anything at the moment to get her way. She is not consistent and will unravel


26 posted on 09/19/2015 7:35:02 AM PDT by BRL
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

She also believes man made global is dooming the planet. Just doesnt want to do anything about it right now.


27 posted on 09/19/2015 7:36:11 AM PDT by robert14 (cng)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Poll is wrong. Trump is at 40%.


28 posted on 09/19/2015 7:36:31 AM PDT by TornadoAlley3 (Obama is everything Oklahoma is not.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“According to Todd Bartlem, there is nothing surprising in Carly’s tendency to place herself at the front and center of every narrative.

‘She is pathologically narcissistic and all she cares about is her,’ he said. ‘Nothing holds together with her.

‘I got kind of suspicious of her towards the end of the marriage because she had no old friends. She had nobody that she knew in the past, and I thought, “God that’s kind of weird.”’

Today Bartlem believes the reason lies in Carly’s ‘modus operandi’ of ‘dropping people’ as soon as they have fulfilled their useful purpose in her life. Certainly it’s what he believes happened to him.

‘I had no utility and that’s what the judgment was,’ he said. ‘If you aren’t useful to her, your time is over. She learned that in business school. I was heartbroken. It was brutal.’

Bartlem claims that when Carly walked out on him she did so without leaving so much as a forwarding address or phone number. A year after the divorce, he claims, she pulled up in the driveway of their former home and calmly said, ‘I will never see you again.’”

From the uk article linked above


29 posted on 09/19/2015 7:36:49 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "Forward lies the crown, and onward is the goal.")
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

As a New Hampshire native, I can shed a little light on the weird politics in the state.

First, NH is a very small state in both population and acreage. We pay our legislators almost nothing and have over 400 of them in the legislature. Everybody has the opportunity to know their state senators and representatives and most know them.

Second, voters can declare their party affiliation when they arrive at the polling locations, allowing crossover voting in both parties. When there is no competition in one party, a large block of its voters cross over and create havoc in the primary of the other party. This explains the odd winners like Henry Cabot Lodge and Eugene McCarthy.

Third, we get polled constantly, creating much animosity toward phone call polls. Many of us tell them the exact opposite of what we will actually do just because we hate them and want them to get false results. This skews the polls by several percentage points.

Fourth, our Democrats are mostly immigrants from Massachusetts, New York, and other seriously left wing states, so they tend to be even farther left than standard Democrats. Our Republicans swing libertarian (small L) rather than pure conservative. They don’t like government and don’t trust politicians to do anything good.

So, my conclusion for the upcoming election are as follows:

There won’t be as many crossover votes as usual because it appears the Dems are going to have a contest.

The Dems will vote for the socialist.
The Republicans will vote for the outsider (Trump, Fiorina, Carson and maybe Cruz)

As usual, NH won’t be very representative of the rest of the country, but we will have lots of fun spending the tourism money we gain from the vast influx of press and out of state supporters.


30 posted on 09/19/2015 7:38:07 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Its the Carly’s Free arena show. IMO seems like Carly could have a key position within a Repub presidents Admin. Put her in charge of cutting Govt waste division.
She seems focused and passionate and would do that job well.
As the president? No thank you.


31 posted on 09/19/2015 7:38:40 AM PDT by tflabo (Psalm 1)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Why would you praise Caliphate Carly who praised Islam two weeks after 9/11?

Didn't know that we had a secret Muslim admiration society here.

32 posted on 09/19/2015 7:39:05 AM PDT by bramps (why is being called a muslim presumed to be a criticism?)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Is supporting “dreamers” anti-PC? Which, of course, is tied to amnesty with a short rope.


33 posted on 09/19/2015 7:39:13 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’m just plain done with the hate filled ravings and my only concern is taking down the Boehner/McConnell wing of the GOP. I’m not going to nit pick that someone didn’t use the right word or mention this or that issue in a speech.

People need to grow the hell up and recognize that there is no political salvation and be willing to join a candidate in making America better and stop expecting one to do it for them.

I mostly ignore the pundits and seek opposing views.

I am a Discern Troll.


34 posted on 09/19/2015 7:39:31 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

More from the ex...

“Todd Bartlem, a Stanford classmate who’s told other reporters that in the years they were together, she had no political opinions and considered Dress for Success her bible.”

When reached by phone recently, Bartlem said only, “You’re wasting your time, and I don’t want you to waste mine. In the clown car that is the Republican Party, she’s the ultimate clown.”


35 posted on 09/19/2015 7:40:07 AM PDT by glenduh
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“She knocked it out of the park in the debate.”

That was the enthusiastic suggestion of the press and RINOs, made to the suggestible.


36 posted on 09/19/2015 7:40:40 AM PDT by odawg
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Someone mentioned Mark Levin, I think it was on his last show or maybe it was Rush, it was being mentioned how Fiorina is good to build up from the Democratic Liberal Media in this race, much like they liked people like McCain in ‘08 but if it were ever Fiorina vs. Hillary, then the knives would come out.

I’ve nothing against Fiorina but those two jobs as mentioned, HP and Lucent would be hard to overcome.

Why did HP hire her in the first place if she had problems at Lucent is my question?


37 posted on 09/19/2015 7:41:33 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

she only had 6 ppl at her wedding and 2 of them were the caterers ... got no friends.


38 posted on 09/19/2015 7:42:58 AM PDT by true believer forever (Lord, Give me this mountain.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“She is anti-PC...”

Not even close, according to workers during her HP tenure.


39 posted on 09/19/2015 7:43:58 AM PDT by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Flash polls do not take into account demographics. They are all about getting anyone to answer the phone. Fiorina did well in the debate. The Morning Consult shows Fiorina winning the debate, byt Trump ahead. They do weekly polling and the trens is Trump, Rubio, Fiorina Up, Bush, Carson down.

Voter Gravity Poll Iowa Post Debate 1
Carson 19 Fiorina 13 Trump 12.

Fiorina wins debate - Trump Still Leads

Fiorina wins debate 29-24. Trump 36-Carson 12-Fiorina 10 voter preference. Morning Consult

Plenty of reason to doubt ANY Voter gravity poll because of their methodology.
40 posted on 09/19/2015 7:45:34 AM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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