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Ben Carson, the Superior Outsider [He is the real conservative outsider, not Trump]
Politico ^ | 09/03/2015 | Rich Lowry

Posted on 09/03/2015 1:36:27 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

While Jeb Bush feuds Donald Trump and others kowtow to him, only one candidate is seriously gaining on him.

Ben Carson is now tied with Trump in one Iowa poll and is close in others, an especially notable result given that The Donald has jammed a lifetime's worth of free media into the past couple of months.

Carson's rise suggests that it's possible to catch the populist wave roiling Republican politics and yet not be an obnoxious braggart who abuses anyone who crosses him and will say or do anything as long as he's getting attention. Ben Carson is a superior outsider to Donald Trump.

He is more gentlemanly and more conservative, with a more compelling life story. Carson is a man of faith who, despite his manifest accomplishments, has a quiet dignity and winsome modesty about him. Ben Carson is a throwback, whereas Donald Trump is a bold-faced name straight out of our swinish celebrity culture.

What they have in common is that they are political neophytes light on policy details who are memorable communicators precisely because they speak and carry themselves so differently from other politicians. Although the similarities stop there — Carson is what Trump calls "low energy," and yet he makes it work for him.

At the Faith and Freedom event in Washington in June, Carson gave a speech that had no obvious applause lines, never rose above a conversational tone, had very little political content — and left perhaps the best impression of any presentation by a candidate.

Few politicians have ever wielded soft-spokeness to such rhetorical effect. Carson aced the Fox debate when in his closing statement he didn't puff himself up and attempt to soar like candidates always do, but gently said a few nice things about his background as a surgeon, with a touch of humor. It was a hit.

If Carson's surge continues, one wonders if other contenders now doing all they can to kowtow to and copy the bombastic real-estate mogul will instead decide to kowtow to and copy the mild-mannered retired neurosurgeon.

Carson is a more natural fit for conservatives than Trump. If you like your outsider not to favor higher taxes, not to have once opposed the ban of partial birth abortion, not to speak favorably of socialized medicine, not to have been an erstwhile booster of Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton, and not to have experience buying off politicians, Ben Carson (or Carly Fiorina) is a much better bet than Donald Trump.

And Carson is altogether a more sympathetic figure. He rose from nothing; Trump took over the family real-estate business. Carson's mom was one of 24 kids, had a third-grade education and worked as a domestic; Trump's father built tens of thousands of apartments in Brooklyn and Queens and amassed a fortune of $300 million.

Carson is a serious Christian who has a powerful testimonial about getting down on his knees as a young man unable to control his temper and saying, "Lord, unless you help me, I'm not going to make it."

Carson tells of how he prayed to God to give him the right woman and how he has been married to his wife, Candy, for 40 years; Trump brags about the beautiful women he has bedded.

Trump says he likes "The Art of the Deal" better than any book except the Bible, but he appears to have read just one of them. His evasions when he was asked a few basic questions in a Bloomberg interview about the Good Book were hilariously ham-fisted (he can't answer what his favorite verse is because that's too personal a question).

Trump is the most blatantly secular major presidential candidate since Howard Dean, and of course, he is running as a Republican, not a Democrat. Trump will have to do well in the Iowa caucuses that have been won most recently by Rick Santorum, Mike Huckabee and George W. Bush — a devout Catholic, an ordained Baptist preacher and an evangelical, none of whom were prone to fits of awkwardness and shyness when the Bible came up.

Trump is, to say the least, not of this mold. He is a successful creature of our culture of conspicuous display and tasteless braggadocio. It's no accident that he played himself in WWE wrestling dramas, or that he names everything after himself, or that he doesn't have enough superlatives for own personal qualities and wealth and accomplishments.

Not content simply to brag about his real achievements, Trump says things that are obviously self-inflating fables. Does anyone really believe that other candidates came up to Trump after the Fox debate and told him he had won, as he maintained in his post-debate interview with CNN's Don Lemon?

Carson has certainly made the most of his own renown, churning out best-sellers and raking in the speaking fees, but he operates from a baseline of self-respect and respect for others.

It's impossible to imagine him engaging in juvenile insult wars with random targets of his ire. Or imagine him calling a female journalist a "bimbo" for asking questions that he found unwelcome. Or commenting crudely on women's appearances.

Like Trump, Carson excoriates the culture of political correctness and has said his share of outrageous things, but he also doesn't consider it beneath him to occasionally apologize.

America long ago turned its back on self-restraint and gentlemanliness. Conservatives were the last holdouts, but their dalliance with Trump makes you wonder if they, too, are willing to surrender to celebrity excess as the new norm.

Ben Carson stands for something different. His personal story shows how true class isn't about riches, but about character. Donald Trump has all the finest things and I'd hazard to guess barely as much class as Ben Carson's penniless mother struggling to raise her sons had in her pinky.

Carson may not ultimately have the political pull of Trump, who is more mediagenic and can potentially spend much more money. Yet, if conservatives want to flirt with an unconventional candidate, Carson provides the opportunity to do it without a guilty conscience.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
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To: vette6387; Forgotten Amendments
Trump has done us a big favor forcing all of them out into the open.

I can agree with that but Trump is just another populist like Carson. Neither one is operating from a base of conservative principles. They have a lot of company among the Republican lineup too.

41 posted on 09/03/2015 1:59:28 PM PDT by TigersEye (This is the age of the death of reason and rule of law. Prepare!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Carson promotes abortifacients (”day-after”) to this day, does he not? And Trump even worse, infinitely worse.


42 posted on 09/03/2015 2:00:56 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: SeekAndFind

Ben Carson would be in over his head. He would be the Republicans Jimmy Carter.

He would be a great cabinet member.


43 posted on 09/03/2015 2:01:12 PM PDT by dmzTahoe
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To: Another Post-American

RE: I thought this was a conservative website, but the knives are sure out for Carson around here by the defenders of that leftist Trump

Post #21 above shows us very clearly what issue is MOST IMPORTANT for supporters of Trump. Nothing else matters.

[I of course, am not one of them ]


44 posted on 09/03/2015 2:01:15 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind

Rich Lowry, National Review GOPe bitch.


45 posted on 09/03/2015 2:01:18 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: MayflowerMadam

Films always exaggerate emotions.


46 posted on 09/03/2015 2:02:12 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: steve86

RE: Carson promotes abortifacients (”day-after”) to this day, does he not?

I don’t know. Every single statement that comes out from him up to and including de-funding Planned Parenthood tells me he is pro-life.

So you have a reliable source for this? A link perhaps?


47 posted on 09/03/2015 2:02:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (What is the difference between Obama and government bonds? Government bonds will mature someday)
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To: SeekAndFind

Ben Carson has many accomplishments. He is intelligent and moral.

However, he is being used as a tool to attack Donald Trump.

The people in the MSM hate Ben Carson. They hate his views on homosexuality, abortion, etc. However they praise him. But only as a way to attack Donald Trump.


48 posted on 09/03/2015 2:04:25 PM PDT by detective
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t want the “smartest” passenger to fly the plane, I want the pilot to fly it.

Carson ain’t a pilot.

Surgeon General maybe but with him supporting gun control maybe not.


49 posted on 09/03/2015 2:04:36 PM PDT by Eaker (You are really amazing Eaker. - Swordmaker 02/14/15)
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To: SeekAndFind

I am 99% sure I read a valid source the other day stating just that but do not have it in front of me now. Will forward if I find it later today.


50 posted on 09/03/2015 2:04:46 PM PDT by steve86 (Prophecies of Maelmhaedhoc OÂ’Morgair (Latin form: Malachy))
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To: elhombrelibre

Winning!


51 posted on 09/03/2015 2:05:49 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: SeekAndFind
Rich Lowry and his fellow 'conservatives' are completely flummoxed by Trump. What to do, what to do? Their fear is palpable.

I'd have no problem with Dr. Carson operating on my brain. I would have a problem with him running my country.

52 posted on 09/03/2015 2:06:04 PM PDT by JPG (What's the difference between the Rats and the GOPe? Nothing.)
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To: SeekAndFind
* Semi-automatic weapons ok in countryside, but not cities. (Mar 2013)

Big problem!

BIG!

53 posted on 09/03/2015 2:06:16 PM PDT by Eaker (You are really amazing Eaker. - Swordmaker 02/14/15)
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To: SeekAndFind
Rverything coming out of Politico should be taken with a grain ton of salt.
54 posted on 09/03/2015 2:07:44 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: SeekAndFind

Well if it’s POLITICO I’ll definitely vote for Carson now! It’s not like they’re foaming at the mouth amnesty supporters and leftists! Right? Right? Anybody?


55 posted on 09/03/2015 2:08:19 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not knowingly, but he serves their purpose.


56 posted on 09/03/2015 2:10:12 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: stephenjohnbanker
“* Deportation is moral low road; create guest worker program. (Jan 2012)” Buh bye

If you go back that far, you have Trump saying Romney's suggestion illegals would "self-deport" was too harsh and lost us the Hispanic vote.

57 posted on 09/03/2015 2:10:15 PM PDT by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: SeekAndFind
"He is the real conservative outsider" (until we'd get rid of Trump, then we'll find a way to get rid of Carson).

Fixed.

58 posted on 09/03/2015 2:10:50 PM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually" (Hendrix))
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To: SeekAndFind

He is for amnesty, no sale.


59 posted on 09/03/2015 2:10:53 PM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been officially denied)
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To: SeekAndFind

Quite the flip-flopper!


60 posted on 09/03/2015 2:11:28 PM PDT by Eaker (You are really amazing Eaker. - Swordmaker 02/14/15)
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