He didn’t rule it was a sham since judges don't use those words in their judgments. (But the rest of us knew it was and that's all that matters....LOL!.
Brady is still dishonest and a cheat.
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Posted on 09/03/2015 11:03:32 AM PDT by detective
You don’t seem to understand.
Tom Brady refused to provide personal and private information that he was not required to provide under the collective bargaining agreement.
He did nothing wrong.
Hillary Clinton illegally destroyed official government documents and lied about it.
She committed a crime.
That is like saying that a person who drives on certain street and does nothing wrong is the same as someone who drives on the same street and kills someone in a hit and run.
Tom Brady acted within his rights under the agreement and did nothing wrong. Hillary Clinton committed numerous crimes.
They lost two draft picks and a million dollars.
Someone else said it better than me -
“For workplace investigations, the employer makes the rules. And when the employer expects cooperation, anything other than significant sanctions for failure to cooperate will invite others to refuse to cooperate.
During the various significant NFL investigations in recent years, cooperation has been consistent, and automatic. The Saints cooperated when the NFL was investigating the bounty case. The Ravens cooperated when the NFL was investigating the Ray Rice elevator video. The Dolphins cooperated when the NFL was investigating the bullying scandal — with the exception of trainer Kevin O’Neill, who expressed hostility to the investigation and later was fired.
Per multiple sources, Ravens employees automatically and without hesitation surrendered their cell phones for forensic examination that entailed a specific search for certain recipients and phrases. The procedure balanced the needs of the investigation with individual privacy rights.
Here, multiple individuals chose to extend their privacy rights so broadly that it interfered with their obligation to cooperate with their employer. Separate from whatever the Patriots did or didn’t do to the footballs, the failure to cooperate requires punishment, or others will do the same thing in the future.”
-Mike Florio
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/08/gostkowski-refused-to-cooperate-too/
“Ravens employees automatically and without hesitation surrendered their cell phones for forensic examination that entailed a specific search for certain recipients and phrases”
Patriot employees all surrendered their cell phones.
Tom Brady’s was his own private phone with his own private and personal information.
Tom Brady’s attorney’s provided all texts to the NFL such as Brady discussing his swimming pool cover.
He didn’t rule it was a sham since judges don't use those words in their judgments. (But the rest of us knew it was and that's all that matters....LOL!.
Brady is still dishonest and a cheat.
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I bought my first smart phone two months ago after about 4 years with a Motorola Razr flip phone.
You mean to say that all the conversations and text mails I've ever held on that phone are still there????????
This whole "Deflategate" has been nothing but a joke!
Could be.
That’s such a reach, it’s actually mildly funny.
You set a very low standard for proof. Sort of like global warming. (Just adding my own non-sequitur to this rather odd comment.)
“In both cases, the owner KNEW that the device was wanted by the investigators, and the destruction happened just as the devices were being called-for.”
Wrong. Brady was told that the phone would not be requested and he had it destroyed.
They’ve lost 2 draft picks over this. Now being as they’re the Pats and very good at trading down and hoarding picks that winds up not being a big deal. But for less well run teams losing 2 draft picks can be really detrimental.
Goodell is failing football in every area.
Florio is wrong. The Saints players didn’t cooperate. Which Goodell sited when he suspended them. And when Tags overturned those suspension he said there was no precedent for the league suspending someone for failure to cooperate and the punishment was an overreach.
Or possibly enough to cause rebellion. Kraft has publicly rebuked him multiple times and word is Kraft won’t talk to him anymore. There’s also rumor that some of the owners are privately questioning the league spending this much time and money (the investigation supposedly cost $3 million) on the violation of a minor rule in the book. Continuing down this path isn’t helping him at all.
All I know is that they’d better get their running game going. And soon.
By getting both sides of the issue riled up over what is essentially nothing, nobody’s talking about domestic violence or other serious issues that dog the league today.
Truly, a tempest in a teapot!
Was it worth it to trash and tarnish the image of someone who might be the greatest to ever play the game at that position?
Apparently Goodell thought so.
We'll just have to see how history sees and defines these 2 men.
CA....
They’ve done a pretty good job of handling the domestic violence thing. Yeah they bobbled it early last year, but they were the first league to make it specifically against the rules and punish a player for it.
There’s a few big problems with keeping it going. First it keeps the story alive. If Goodell just took his lumps (maybe a statement on how he feels the infractions were egregious but he understands the judge’s ruling and will work to make the rule book match his beliefs about the crimes) this just evaporates when games start. Sure it’ll be mentioned before the first 4 Pats games, but that’ll be in passing. We know from previous problems having games played is the ultimate balm, look how the Rice thing evaporated once games started happening. Also it just seems petty, he hasn’t taken any other loss to the next court level, why this one. He’s a sport commissioner, he should be able to comprehend that when you lose you lose.
His worst case scenario here is the hearings start next February so it becomes the talk of two off seasons in a row. Even worse is if the Pats win SBL THEN the court cases start back up.
10 or 20 years from now when he comes out with an autobiography I really want to read this chapter. I really want to know what he was thinking. To me the minute they decided to run a sting on Brady instead of just changing procedures to match every other sports league in the country and make tampering impossible this was on a path that could only embarrass Goodell and the league.
Goodell found the judge not Brady.
They had no proof, you sound like a Obama sheep who ignores facts.
Actually Brady was expressly told the phone wasn’t needed. The NFL admitted this in court. Try to at least know the facts before making a dumb statement.
Just another butthurt Seahawks fan.
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