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Mormons and Jews: What Two Religions Tell Us About the Modern Dating Crisis
Time ^ | 8/24/15 | JON BIRGER

Posted on 08/30/2015 3:43:02 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows

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To: Gefn; GrootheWanderer

Paying $100,000 in support to your daughter and son-in-law over several years is kind of like paying for college. Lots of middle-class families probably could manage it, with advance planning.

If our oldest son had been a resident student at the local state university for four years, instead of doing his first two years at community college and living at home until graduation, it would have cost nearly $100,000.

On the other hand, how much have I spent on wine because having him at home is driving me crazy ...


41 posted on 08/30/2015 7:56:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("All the time live the truth with love in your heart." ~Fr. Ho Lung)
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To: Jonty30

Again, true.


42 posted on 08/30/2015 8:10:04 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg | Instagram: hopalonginsberg)
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To: miss marmelstein

Reality has a way of intruding on peoples illusions.


43 posted on 08/30/2015 8:17:31 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg | Instagram: hopalonginsberg)
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To: Alberta's Child

> I’ve long felt that urban living is incompatible with a normal family life for most people.

That is a VERY interesting idea.


44 posted on 08/30/2015 8:20:55 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg | Instagram: hopalonginsberg)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Of course, these are the students who come out of these institutions, get a job and before you know it are screaming racism! homophobia! at the poor boss. And then they go out and buy a weapon.


45 posted on 08/30/2015 8:21:50 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: I'd like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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To: GrootheWanderer

Good point!


46 posted on 08/30/2015 8:21:58 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg | Instagram: hopalonginsberg)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

I concur. I’ve heard it unironically suggested that it’s during the times of greatest alienation from society at large that Jews flourish as Jews.


47 posted on 08/30/2015 8:34:26 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (My music: http://hopalongginsberg.com/ | Facebook: Hopalong Ginsberg | Instagram: hopalonginsberg)
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To: Erik Latranyi

This Is What Happens When Men And Women From Different Countries Get Stranded Together
http://www.thefederalistpapers.org/us/this-is-what-happens-when-men-and-women-from-different-countries-get-stranded-together


48 posted on 08/30/2015 8:36:25 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Alberta's Child

I’d be very interested in your take from the Alberta perspective. I’m from the States but spent most of the past 20 years in Ontario. Alberta, with a white collar city, a blue collar city, and a rural population, each of roughly equal size, has always struck me as inherently healthier. I’m guessing that, from a looking-for-a-spouse perspective, that Edmonton would be a great city to be a woman and Calgary a great city to be a man.


49 posted on 08/30/2015 8:52:47 AM PDT by Hieronymus ( (It is terrible to contemplate how few politicians are hanged. --G. K. Chesterton))
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To: GrootheWanderer

Spot on. The War on Men and Boys continues.


50 posted on 08/30/2015 9:39:57 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: knarf
which was white, sexist, male and chauvanist

And that's the way it was and we LIKED IT!

51 posted on 08/30/2015 9:43:06 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GrootheWanderer

But not unexpected where kids become a commodity and marriage a negotiation.


52 posted on 08/30/2015 9:44:34 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Right. But the problem is a demographic one.

Multiple studies show that college-educated Americans are increasingly reluctant to marry those lacking a college degree. This bias is having a devastating impact on the dating market for college-educated women.

I would rather see multiple studies on the majors of the college-educated women to see if they correspond to those of the spouses they purport to seek. If a wife wants to be materially supported by a husband, or to support a husband, was the degree worth the investment ?

53 posted on 08/30/2015 9:46:21 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: catnipman

>>but beyond that, it’s highly likely Mr. Welder is a self-reliant type that probably knows how to repair almost anything.

I was thinking the same thing. She will find some educated pajama boy who has to hire an electrician to put up a ceiling fan...and then she’ll cheat on pajama boy with some “bad boy” she meets in a bar. And then she’ll wind up divorced and whining about how she never meets any good men, but she’ll insist that you not “be judgin’ me”.


54 posted on 08/30/2015 10:39:38 AM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

That is a good point but confined to the US where income and class are synonymous. Even here most would make a distinction between professional class and working class. It’s a question of upward mobility.

Sadly, Miss 30k a year is unaware that if she’s over 25 she is not that attractive to any young man much less primo ones.


55 posted on 08/30/2015 11:57:22 AM PDT by Varda
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To: kalee

For later


56 posted on 08/30/2015 12:04:00 PM PDT by kalee
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To: Slings and Arrows

It really might just be me, but as a hard-working man in his 30’s in an area where I should be at an advantage I’ve found it nearly impossible to find a woman who isn’t either overweight, tatted-up, or have a very strict checklist of qualities they want in a partner. It’s not that hard to find a sex partner, but I’ve just about given up on finding someone decent and marriage-minded.


57 posted on 08/30/2015 12:27:41 PM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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To: I Hired Craig Livingstone

I went through a lot of that, too.

The stories I could tell.

One of my clients had a gal working there; complained because she couldn’t find a decent guy. Wound up marrying (I think) of our consulting companies guys. He seemed nice but was quite the jerk for ridiculous reasons. I’m guessing she went out with him because he had a foreign accent.

I had to work with him. I knew what he was like. Oh well. Probably dodged a bullet with her. That’s just one of the very mild stories, LOL.


58 posted on 08/30/2015 6:39:12 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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s/b “consulting company’s”


59 posted on 08/30/2015 6:39:55 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: SaveFerris

The jerks don’t seem to have much of a problem finding someone — if you’re willing to lie and put on pretenses it makes things much easier.

Did you ever find someone?


60 posted on 08/30/2015 6:49:20 PM PDT by I Hired Craig Livingstone (DT16. Deal with it.)
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