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If Trump's Campaign Collapses, It'll Be For One Of These 6 Reasons
Townhall.com ^ | August 29, 2015 | John Hawkins

Posted on 08/29/2015 4:50:36 AM PDT by Kaslin

I don’t know whom I will end up supporting next year, but I do like Donald Trump.

I like his books. I like his personality. I appreciate all of the things he's done right in this campaign.

If you applied the old "Who would you like to have a beer with?” test that has probably determined far more elections than most Americans want to admit, Trump would beat everyone in the field combined twice over. In a time when the Republican Party has become timid, weak and utterly corrupt, Trump is bold, strong and he has enough money that he can't be bought off. Also, unlike most other Republican politicians, he doesn't turn into a pool of whimpering jello every time someone claims to be offended. His immigration plan? It may be the single best thing a Republican politician has come out with in the last decade. Also, in a time when most of the Republican Party isn't willing to fight anyone except for its own supporters and won't fight for anything except what its wealthy donors want, Trump has shown a willingness to take on the Left and win.

Yet and still, I never expected Trump to make it into first place. Then, after he made it into first place, I never expected him to hang on for so long. He has already taken enough hits and made enough gaffes to kill 5 other campaigns, but Trump has done so much right that the things he's done wrong haven't done much damage. If anything, Trump seems to be getting STRONGER.

This has been reflected in the types of discussions you hear about Trump on the radio. In every radio appearance I’ve done in the last couple of months, we’ve inevitably spent at least half of our time talking about Trump. At first, the question that kept coming up was, “Why are people supporting him?” Then it moved on to some variation of, “How long do you think Trump can last?” Now that Trump has shown some staying power, the question has become, “Will Trump win the nomination?”

I don’t know the answer to that question and anyone who tells you definitively that Trump is going to win or is going to go down in flames is full of it. However, I can make some educated guesses about what could stop the guy who’s dominating the field from winning.

1) How Conservative Will He Turn Out To Be? Trump has no problem admitting that he used to have much more liberal opinions, but he says he’s “evolved” to become much more conservative, much the same way Reagan did. Of course, Reagan “evolved” as a very conservative politician who had a chance to show what he really believed as the governor of California. Because Trump hasn’t held office and tends to talk in very broad strokes, we really don’t know how conservative he will turn out to be on many issues. Over the next few months, Trump will be forced to spend a lot of time fleshing out his positions and if it turns out he’s well to the Left of the base on some of them, it could peel off enough support to cost him the nomination.

2) He Could Top Out: This is one you hear a lot from political insiders. Supposedly, if it turns into a two man race, with Trump vs. an “anti-Trump” candidate, his support may top out and he’ll be unable to win.However, that may be wishful thinking. After all, in the latest Quinnipiac poll, Trump is polling at 28% while the other “outsider” candidates (Carson, Cruz, Fiorina) draw in another 24%. Trump would have a better shot than anyone of reeling in those voters if those candidates left the race. Combine that with the fact that the RNC heavily frontloaded the primaries and that Republican voters LOVE to jump on the bandwagon of the campaign that they think will win and there’s not much reason to believe that Trump could start extremely strong, but wouldn’t be able to gather enough support to emerge victorious. If Trump dominates in the beginning, it’s highly likely that he’ll be dominating in the end as well.

3) Mistakes Pile Up: Donald Trump has shown a remarkable ability (for a Republican at least) to survive gaffes that would wipe out a lesser candidate. There were his comments about McCain, the fight with Fox over the debate, retweeting some nasty shots at Megyn Kelly and probably a half dozen other minor incidents for him that would have done serious damage to another candidate. Although it’s possible Trump could make a major gaffe that will sink him, an accumulation of mistakes could be just as lethal. It’s sort of like a car. You expect a mechanical problem now and then, but if you have to take it in for repairs every few weeks, you’ll eventually conclude it’s a lemon and go get a new one.

4) He Has Bad Polling Numbers Against The Democrats In 2016: Head-to-Head polling numbers in August of 2015 don’t mean much. After all, there haven’t been any ads yet, the voters are just learning the candidates and the debates are just getting started. However, later in the campaign season, in say January of 2016, how the different GOP candidates match up with the Democrats will take on more significance. While a minor difference in numbers shouldn’t sway anyone, if it turns out Trump is getting buried while other candidates are doing well, it will move votes. At the end of the day, it’s not just about beating the Republican Establishment; it’s about putting someone in the White House who can change things.

5) He May Be Reluctant To Spend Money: According to Ed Rollins, who ran Ross Perot’s run at the White House, one of the things that kept the campaign from really taking off was Perot’s refusal to spend the money he needed to get over the top.It might seem surprising that a billionaire like Perot wouldn’t be willing to spend what it took to win, but billionaires get that rich by accumulating money, not by spending it on things that will never produce a financial return on their investment. There are at least some indications that Trump may be reluctant to spend what it takes to win as well,

While Democratic front-runner Hillary Rodham Clinton boasts an army of more than 350 paid staffers, Trump's operation fields less than a tenth that number.

It includes a coterie of about a dozen paid staffers operating out of the campaign headquarters at Trump Tower on Manhattan's Fifth Avenue — the same building where Trump lives and runs his real estate empire.

His team has no pollster, fundraisers or media consultant and only announced its first fulltime, big-name policy adviser this week.

Becoming the next President of the United States is probably going to cost somewhere between 2.5 and 5 billion dollars. Can even Trump liquidate enough of his empire to shell out that much? More importantly, would he be willing to do it? The jury’s out right now, but as we get closer to the first primaries, we’re going to see if Trump is really willing to vaporize a large chunk of his own fortune to become the next President of the United States.

6) Opposition Research Could Be A Problem: Because Donald Trump has never run for office, he has not been fully vetted. In his case, that’s an area of particular concern because he’s a celebrity, playboy billionaire on his third marriage who has no qualms about saying outrageous things. As we speak, every book he’s written and every public appearance he’s ever made is being scrutinized. People who hate Trump’s guts are being interviewed, rumors are being chased down and whatever is found will be put into ads by Super PACS that will spend millions to saturate the airwaves. What will they come up with? Well, as Donald Rumsfeld might say, that is one of the, “unknown unknowns — the ones we don’t know we don’t know. And if one looks throughout the history of our country and other free countries, it is the latter category that tend to be the difficult ones.”

Whatever happens with Trump, I’m grateful to him for his immigration plan, for hammering Jeb Bush into the ground and for shaking things up in a Republican Party that has grown stagnant and unresponsive to the people that have put the GOP in office. Whether he wins or loses in the end, as long as Trump’s involved, it will probably be one Hell of a show!


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To: blackdog

I think you just nailed it, it looks to me as if a huge percentage of voters are sick and tired of all the BS and want to hear somebody real. I know I have had it with the mealy mouthed, don’t offend anybody, garbage. Any nation with a political party that takes a wreck like Hillary Clinton seriously as a presidential candidate, let alone as someone who cannot be defeated, is sick, sick, sick.


41 posted on 08/29/2015 5:37:07 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: usconservative

Kelly was the point of spear held by Fox and other jeb supporters. Precedent is important and fighting off an attack early is the best in the long run. Trump sent a signal that he would fight against an attack to the point of destroying himself. By doing so he wards off future attacks by bullies. This wasn’t just about Kelly. This was about positioning Trump and his future attackers.


42 posted on 08/29/2015 5:38:22 AM PDT by Raycpa
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To: mkjessup
"That would be a tragedy because the resulting wave ..."

...of melancholy and the vapours.

43 posted on 08/29/2015 5:38:38 AM PDT by shibumi ("Have you driven a Fnord lately?")
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To: Carthego delenda est
The Jebster isn't that bad of a monniker, it kind of sums up his squishy, pathetic personna.

If he actually gained traction (ain't gonna happen), I might change it to el diablo, perhaps that would be better.....

For now it'll remain......the Jebster.....

44 posted on 08/29/2015 5:39:27 AM PDT by Lakeshark
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Well my FRiend, you know what they say about politics and beanbag, right?



BWHAHA! (Just had to yank your chain a little bit in fun this morning, hope your weekend is starting off well :)
45 posted on 08/29/2015 5:39:53 AM PDT by mkjessup (Trump is the barbarian at the RINO gate, Cruz is his 'inside man' and I LIKE it !!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

“Don’t limit yourself! There could be 13 reasons.”

There must be fifty ways to lose an election.


46 posted on 08/29/2015 5:39:55 AM PDT by RipSawyer (Racism is racism, regardless of the race of the racist.)
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To: Kaslin
It’s sort of like a car. You expect a mechanical problem now and then, but if you have to take it in for repairs every few weeks, you’ll eventually conclude it’s a lemon and go get a new one.

What a stretch. This column is sortalike a prayer for Trump failure, painted with faint praise.

When Trump 'went after' mcpain, it was in response to macpain's calling Trump supporters 'crazies'.

We all know what happened with the FAUX BITCH, so she can piss off and 'move to the mainstream, ie cnn.

The msm cannot accept the fact that Americans are fed up with all politicians and their LIES.

47 posted on 08/29/2015 5:39:57 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Raycpa

Yep. Now it’s “Our two dads can beat your two mommies”


48 posted on 08/29/2015 5:40:38 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Lakeshark

yep, we on the same page......it’s not gonna be the media, or the establishment media, or the establishment candidates - who take Trump down. It can only be Trump stepping into a lefty steaming pile at some big moment....or maybe simply the fact that whether it’s in politics, coaching, etc, those fires that burn the hottest are not the fires that burn the longest.

Whatever, these are unprecedented times.....


49 posted on 08/29/2015 5:42:12 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: mkjessup

dude, thank God I’ve had my coffee....and notice the poster before the post.......

:D


50 posted on 08/29/2015 5:43:04 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: Kaslin
Whatever happens with Trump, I’m grateful to him for his immigration plan, for hammering Jeb Bush into the ground and for shaking things up in a Republican Party that has grown stagnant and unresponsive to the people that have put the GOP in office.

Exactly !!!

51 posted on 08/29/2015 5:44:55 AM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
All excellent points.

I've said this before, and I'll repeat it here: I'm not sold on the fact that Trump will have the staying power to go the distance. It's not a matter of money, it's a matter of what people will do when the step into the voting booth during the primaries, and the questions they ask themselves about who they're going to cast their votes for. It's at this point where the rubber meets the road as people start asking themselves whether or not the candidate they like really has a chance of "winning it all."

At this stage it's way too early (IMO) to put my money on a horse. There's still just so much time for any of the candidates running to flame out.

I will say this about Trump: He speaks for me on immigration, the economy and the incompetence and corruption in Washington DC. Those not so coincidentally also happen to be the hot button issues for so many people. I frankly speaking really like the fact that he's got so many establishment politicians (on both sides of the aisle) all up in arms.

We'll see how long Trump lasts in this race.

52 posted on 08/29/2015 5:45:25 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: Lakeshark; C. Edmund Wright
This is a great article, kind of sums it up perfectly.
We don't really know what we can expect from Donald Trump yet, his past has been all over the map between conservative and lib.
Despite that, it's hard not to cheer him for his taking on the GOPe and kicking them in the groin, bringing up multiple issues that needed to be brought up, showing the GOP how they should have acted for the last decade, how to handle the drive by media, plus the bonus of destroying the candidacy of the (hopefully) last Bush.
I love all of those things, and if all he does is get the Jebster out of the race, we should all be thrilled.


Sharky my FRiend! Good to see you!

Your points are right on target, and I would like to think that although it is true what C.Edmund says about going with instinctive reflexes, that Trump is enough of a pragmatic type that he would not let fact override emotion when it comes to (for example) defunding Planned Infanticide.

But even if all Trump does (as you said) is to drive Jebuardo BOOOOSH out of the race, he will have performed an immense public service.
53 posted on 08/29/2015 5:46:23 AM PDT by mkjessup (Trump is the barbarian at the RINO gate, Cruz is his 'inside man' and I LIKE it !!)
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To: Lakeshark

I’m really for Senator Cruz. I like nearly everything about him.

If Trump gets the nomination, I can certainly vote for him-—but with some trepidation……..He has never held a political office that I know of, which could be a good thing or a bad thing.

I’m just not all in for him, yet……….


54 posted on 08/29/2015 5:47:32 AM PDT by basil
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To: BRL

“#7. He could die”

If not by natural means, I’m sure the Clinton Mafia or Bush Machine would be happy to facilitate. I do worry about this.


55 posted on 08/29/2015 5:48:10 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: BRL
#7. He could die

Most likely assassinated, or die under strange circumstances. He's too big a threat to people in high places.

Just ask Vince Foster, Ron Brown, or Loretta Fuddy.

56 posted on 08/29/2015 5:48:24 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: blackdog

It certainly was my dad. As a preacher he got himself in hot water again and again. By the time my turn rolled around speaking one’s mind and standing on principle had become cause for defrocking. Pray Trump can energize American manhood back to its macho roots.


57 posted on 08/29/2015 5:48:26 AM PDT by Louis Foxwell (This is a wake up call. Join the Sultan Knish ping list.)
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To: mkjessup
In all seriousness, consider picking up a short wave receiver, that could expand your horizons considerably.

I'm a ham radio guy with contacts in 163 countries at last count. I've got that covered. :-)

58 posted on 08/29/2015 5:48:28 AM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: 4rcane

“if you’re efficient in spending your money you don’t need a large operation”

Very true. David Brat beat the powerful Eric Cantor by 10 percentage points. Cantor spent $5.7 million, Brat $200,000. Like Trump today Brat ran on an anti-immigration theme.

In 1994, the unknown GOP challenger George Nethercutt beat Democrat House Speaker Tom Foley. The Foley loss came before the days of social media.

Trump has shown it is possible to build awareness through social and alternative media. Not having to spend significant dollars for traditional broadcast media is a huge savings.

The other big campaign cost is the ground game (robocalls, door knocking, precinct workers). Trump seems to believe he can win primaries and the nomination without investing in organization to get his voters to the polls. He may be correct in believing he has tapped into anti-establishment fervor and his energized voters will come out in huge numbers to vote against the party establishment. Once he wins the nomination, he will plug into the existing RNC organization as well as state GOP organizations and use their ground operatives to get out the vote on election day.

Trump made it clear in his Alabama press conference he expects to be spending RNC money and using RNC operatives during the national campaign once he wins the nomination. He’ll also benefit from support of Super PACs and other organizations. Therefore the Perot comparison is not relevant. Perot was running an independent national campaign and spending his own money. Trump plans to spend his own money only to secure the nomination. Likely that will be less than $100 million.


59 posted on 08/29/2015 5:49:21 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: Kaslin

Another pundiot who has no clue of what is making him strong. All of those are strengths and why people are getting behind him. Nobody thinks he is perfect and he does not try to be.

What if he is proving, everything we know about politics is wrong?

Pray America is waking


60 posted on 08/29/2015 5:49:48 AM PDT by bray (Trump and Cruz to the White House)
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