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'Trump Is Right': Levin Says 14th Amendment Doesn't Apply to Illegal Immigrants (Video)
Fox News Insider ^ | August 19, 10:24pm | Mark Levin on Hannity

Posted on 08/20/2015 11:08:36 AM PDT by Red Steel

Mark Levin said on "Hannity" tonight that the 14th Amendment does not give citizenship to children of illegal immigrants who are born in the United States.

He said that those claiming that the 14th Amendment allows birthright citizenship are dead wrong, ...

Levin explained that means that Congress - not the president, the courts or U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement - has the power to regulate immigration in this regard.

"Of course Trump is right and Cruz is right and Sessions is right. They're all right," Levin said.

"If you want a policy of open borders, that anybody born here should become a United States citizen, you amend the Constitution. We don't have to amend the Constitution. It says what we say it says," Levin stated. "By statute, going forward, prospectively, Congress can in fact say ... 'No, you cannot make children of illegal aliens American citizens automatically.'"

(Excerpt) Read more at insider.foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 14thamendment; 2016election; anchorbabies; anchorbaby; birthright; election2016; fourteenthamendment; hannity; levin; marklevin; newyork; trump
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
What happened to what those people (who were supposedly sent to Hawaii) supposedly found in hawaii?

I have heard no more on this and maybe Trump can finally tell us if this is true and they did find something...

Oh Trump did something. He pretended to be interested in a topic that was supported by a plurality of the conservative base, and he did so at little cost to himself.

I was suspecting he was going to run for President way back when he was making noises about being interested in the topic of Obama's legitimacy.

If he wins, he might throw us a bone by ordering investigations into Obama's background. Perhaps we'll finally see the things which have been hidden from us.

More like he'll just ignore the topic when it no longer serves any purpose for him.

21 posted on 08/20/2015 11:28:54 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Red Steel

Do you mind telling that to those who said yesterday that even Stare Decisis on this case is a bunch of baloney and rendered by judges that were incompetent and uneducated?

BTW, good luck with the political suicide of arguing for the retroactive stripping away of citizenship from those born to illegals on U.S. soil even 5 days ago much less 50 years ago.

And good luck with the political suicide the GOP will suffer if it goes down the road of saying they never possessed citizenship in the first place.


22 posted on 08/20/2015 11:35:56 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Please, you and others, drop the retroactive crap.

As soon as you drop your daily TDS threads.

23 posted on 08/20/2015 11:36:32 AM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: TexasFreeper2009

So you would argue for sending the GOP down the road of retroactively stripping away citizenship from those born to illegals on U.S. soil, be it 5 weeks, 5 years or 50 years ago?

Insanity. Political suicide for the GOP.


24 posted on 08/20/2015 11:37:30 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: alancarp

Good luck arguing for that and saying the papers they have possessed for 5 years or even 50 years were never good to begin with.

You will send the GOP to a political grave if you and others argue in favor of that.


25 posted on 08/20/2015 11:39:26 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Naw, no political suicide, but looks to be GOPE suicide in bunches.

Check the scoreboard lately?

“TRUMP SMASH: LEADS JEB BY +18 POINTS IN PENNSYLVANIA PRIMARY”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3327150/posts


26 posted on 08/20/2015 11:39:50 AM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Actually, I wouldn’t shed a tear if the GOP committed political suicide.

However, legislation like this is not retroactive. You simply STOP the anchor baby exception. That doesn’t mean that those recognized as citizens in the past are no longer citizens. Ex post facto punishment for what was legal prior is not the American way. Art I, Sect 9, para 3: “No Bill of Attainder or ex post facto Law shall be passed. “


27 posted on 08/20/2015 11:43:15 AM PDT by xzins (Don't let others pay your share; reject Freep-a-Fare! Donate-https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Childern of foreign diplomats born in the US are not US citizens. This is not allowed by law. They same law could include foreign nations as a whole, illegally and/or legally in the US at the time of birth. This is what is meant by the jurisdiction clause of the 14th amendment. What cannot happen is to retroactively remove citizenship. This would be an ex post facto law, which is not constitutional.


28 posted on 08/20/2015 11:44:42 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Do Not Vote for List: See my profile)
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To: Logical me

Yes,I did see that part of the show. He probably went home alone and enjoyed himself alone!


29 posted on 08/20/2015 11:45:14 AM PDT by Dr. Ursus
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To: Red Steel

But Judge Napolitano and of course that genius, O’Reilly says that he’s wrong.


30 posted on 08/20/2015 12:03:43 PM PDT by nikos1121 ("There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." Thoreau)
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To: Red Steel
That's the argument that they can't win. Okay. If lawmakers insist the Anchor Babies are US citizens by birth, parents here illegally have three choices:

1. Leave and take any minor children with them.

2. Leave and make verifiable arrangements to leave their Anchor Babies with a US citizen guardian that will provide for them until age 18.

3. Anchor Babies become wards of the state and can be emancipated after age 16 if they can prove they are self supporting.

31 posted on 08/20/2015 12:06:01 PM PDT by Rona Badger (Heeds the calling wind.)
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To: Red Steel

Mark is absolutely right.


32 posted on 08/20/2015 12:13:42 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Logical me

Write him: oreilly@foxnews.com


33 posted on 08/20/2015 12:15:24 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Repeal Simpson-Mazzoli.


34 posted on 08/20/2015 12:17:13 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: nikos1121
But Judge Napolitano and of course that genius, O’Reilly says that he’s wrong.


Yeah these 'geniuses' are way behind the power curve. You don't give the history of US citizenship and the issues behind it a superficial look and then think you know it. Many of us here, on FR, as you know, have been studying this issue on and off for a very long.

35 posted on 08/20/2015 12:37:26 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Red Steel

Exactly, along with the lack of transparency regarding Obama’s birth, college work, law school work, travels etc.

Then you have someone like Trump who is totally transparent.


36 posted on 08/20/2015 12:42:00 PM PDT by nikos1121 ("There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil to one who is striking at the root." Thoreau)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Where were the “illegals” from Europe “50, 70, or 90 years ago” that you are talking about? Immigration to the U.S. from Europe historically was a tightly controlled process by the U.S. government with quotas and entrance requirements. We have NEVER had anything LIKE the lawlessness of what has been occurring on the southern border since the late 50’s due to the federal government’s total abdication of its enforcement responsibilities on immigration law, and Ted Kennedy’s abominable legislation opening the doors to illegality, in the entire history of this country. You sound like a mouthpiece for LaRaza, spewing historical distortion to further the hateful destructive agenda of that group.


37 posted on 08/20/2015 12:52:05 PM PDT by 4Runner
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To: TBP
Repeal Simpson-Mazzoli.

Talk about going for the jugular!

38 posted on 08/20/2015 1:20:17 PM PDT by Squeako (It's a Cult of Personality and it's gonna be huge...a huge missed opportunity to vote conservative.)
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To: Red Steel

So to add context for reference in post #19 about Brennan.

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“As the Supreme Court said in Elk: “[N]o one can become a citizen of a nation without its consent.”

The anchor baby scam was invented 30 years ago by a liberal zealot, Justice William Brennan, who slipped a footnote into a 1982 Supreme Court opinion announcing that the kids born to illegals on U.S. soil are citizens. Fox News is treating Brennan’s crayon scratchings on the Constitution as part of our precious national inheritance. “

http://www.anncoulter.com/columns/2015-08-19.html#read_more


39 posted on 08/20/2015 1:37:09 PM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Red Steel; Regulator
In fact, that the 14th Amendment circumscribes who CAN be a citizen, and the fact that the Constitution is a limiting document that disallows anything it does not enumerate, means that Congress MAY NOT confer citizenship on anchor babies.

The burden of proof as has has been placed upon people who oppose existing policy in fact belongs placed upon those who advocate for it.

40 posted on 08/20/2015 1:39:09 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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