Study: E-cigs a gateway to smoking tobacco

the Hill ^ | 08/18/15 | Lydia Wheeler

[jjsheridan5]

Are you trying to imply that this does show causation? What exactly is your point? What in the world does it matter who conducted the study? The point is that it showed no causation, and yet causation was concluded.

[Drango]

See #1

[zerosix]

Sure - talk about anything, anything other than the genuine threats in this country, i.e. terrorists living among us and Obama bringing more in by the month, a thirty year invasion from our Southern Border, along with the drug cartels who kill people and chop them up, not to mention PP killing babies in the womb and chopping them up to sell, ramped up murder in the black and minority communities where police are now told to quit harassing the perps, I could go on but you get the idea.

Then let's talk about smoking POT, no one seems to wonder what the serious health risks are there for say the smoker, second hand hazards for anyone present when pot is smoked - nope it's E Cigarettes that's out to endanger everyone!

[Mears]

And shame on JAMA using stats acquired from 9th graders from 10 schools in one city as reason to come to a valid “conclusion”.

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[Dr. Sivana]

That same 20% would have found their way to cigarettes anyway. Both are illegal for them to buy.

[jjsheridan5]

I ask you again. Don't point me to text. Answer in English. You posted this garbage, so man up and defend it. Where is the proof of causation? No causation means that this, at most, shows mere correlation, which could be caused by anything.

All this shows to me is that experimentative teens experiment on different things, as they go through their teen-age years. Where is the proof, or even evidence, of causation?

[Drango]

Asked and answered. See my comment in #1.

[jjsheridan5]

Then what is the point of showing a study which shows, nothing. It does not suggest “gateway”, because it shows no causation. You say it may take a while to show “more evidence”, but that implies that “some evidence” has been given, and it hasn’t. This is a worthless study leading idiots to the wrong conclusion.

This shows absolutely no evidence of there being a gateway effect.

[Buckeye McFrog]

so.....how did people start smoking tobacco in the 5000 years before they were invented?

[Peter W. Kessler]

As soon as some bureaucrat figures out how to tax e-cigs, the government will cheer lead for them.

[marron]

Civilization cannot survive with twelve-year-olds having babies, fifteen-year-olds shooting one another, seventeen-year-olds dying of AIDS, and eighteen-year-olds graduating with diplomas they cannot read. - Newt Gingrich (1997)

I like that quote.

A forty-year-old having a cigarette with his coffee at Denny's, society can survive.

[Peter W. Kessler]

As soon as some bureaucrat figures out how to tax e-cigs, the government will cheer lead for them.

[eyeamok]

about 30years ago in Europe they did a study of Heroin Addicts, the study set out to prove that Marijuana was the real gateway drug to harder drugs, funny thing happened when they interviewed these people, almost none of them EVER SMOKED WEED, But Every Last one of them Smoked Cigarettes and Drank Alcohol. Study was subsequently buried and not widely publicized.

[tallyhoe]

Hey Tobacco bad... Wacky Tobaccy good.. Can’t smoke cigs but you can sure smoke MJ anywhere...

[Rebelbase]

At least half of the strip shopping centers in my town have Vape stores where the liquid “smoking” product is mixed on-site.

Regulation will wipe out most of them.

[Read Write Repeat]

The issue is that they can’t tax e-cigs or nicotine liquids.

Batteries, wire, cotton, nicotine, VG/PG, food flavoring. There is no way for them to stop it but they keep trying to find something to hook onto.

[fso301]

E-cigs are a gateway to people drawing attention to themselves.

[Boogieman]

Guarantee you more of those heroin addicts were prescribed legal painkillers, prior to their addiction, than smoked marijuana.

[CodeToad]

Bad parenting is a gateway to smoking and drugs and teenage pregnancy, so ban bad parents!

[Enigo54]

Ill take offense for my parents for that comment. MY decisions were a result of ME, not them.