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Study: E-cigs a gateway to smoking tobacco
the Hill ^ | 08/18/15 | Lydia Wheeler

Posted on 08/18/2015 1:13:01 PM PDT by Drango

Students in Los Angeles who used electronic cigarettes were more likely to start smoking combustible tobacco products like cigarettes, cigars and hookas, the Journal of American Medical Association (JAMA) found in a new study.

The study, which surveyed 14-year-olds in the ninth grade at 10 Los Angeles high schools, found that the kids who smoked e-cigarettes were 22.7 percent more likely to smoke combustible cigarettes the following year.

Citing 2014 U.S. estimates, JAMA said 16 percent of 10th graders reported use of e-cigarettes within the past 30 days, of whom 43 percent reported never having tried combustible cigarettes.

Health groups used the new data, released Tuesday, to renew efforts to push the Food and Drug Administration to finalize its tobacco deeming regulation and for the first time regulate all tobacco products, including e-cigarettes and cigars.

“We should not wait for a new generation to become addicted tobacco users to regulate e-cigarettes and prohibit marketing to minors,” American College of Cardiology President Kim Allan Williams Sr. said in a statement. “Changes in attitudes about smoking, regulation of advertising and the resulting declines in tobacco use have contributed significantly to reductions in heart disease wherever implemented around the world in the last 30 years.”

Williams said the FDA should move forward to prevent heart disease and maintain positive trends.

The American Heart Association said the findings should be yet another "wake-up call" to the FDA.

“As this study reinforces, we have a real problem on our hands," AHA CEO Nancy Brown said in a statement. "E-cigarette use has tripled among teens, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention survey, and the evidence released today adds fuel to the fire."

Brown said the wait for a final deeming rule has gone on too long.

"It has been over a year since the FDA first released its proposal," she said. "As this study suggests, the public health nightmare that is tobacco is only getting worse and all tobacco products present risk.”


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It will take awhile for more evidence, but here is another study that suggests e-cigs are a gate-way to addiction.

Correlation does not equal causation.

1 posted on 08/18/2015 1:13:01 PM PDT by Drango
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To: Drango

Blah blah blah.


2 posted on 08/18/2015 1:13:35 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Drango

Of course you have to take into account that liberals lie, always and about everything.


3 posted on 08/18/2015 1:14:52 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Drango

Quick! Tax the hell out of them to feed the nanny staters addiction to cash for their causes.


4 posted on 08/18/2015 1:16:43 PM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care)
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To: Drango
Smoking may reduce life expectancy by a few years but it has never sent anyone to hell, just to heaven a little earlier.

Homosexuality reduces life expectancy to 45yrs and abortion life expectancy of -1. Unrepented Homosexuality and Abortion have sent many to hell in a handbasket.

Which one should we focus on?
5 posted on 08/18/2015 1:17:57 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Drango

Well... I smoked cigarettes for over 35 years.

Last September 5th, I vaped for the first time.

I have NOT HAD A CIGARETTE since then! I would literally KILL someone who tried to take my vaping equipment away from me!

And yes. I feel much, much better.


6 posted on 08/18/2015 1:18:57 PM PDT by djf ("It's not about being nice, it's about being competent!" - Donald Trump)
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To: Drango

And its a gateway out.

In any case, its a free country or its not a free country. Unless its an immediate danger to the user or the people around him, it shouldn’t be the government’s business.

Of course, I feel the same way about cigarettes and cigars. Not an immediate danger, and in a free country they are not the government’s business.


7 posted on 08/18/2015 1:20:03 PM PDT by marron
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To: Drango
The authoritarians are bird-dogging innocent people again.

The nazis'll never have enough control over our lives.

8 posted on 08/18/2015 1:20:06 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Drango
D'uh.

One thing about the "gateway" idea: Can't you go either way through a gate? If crowds moving from tobacco to e-cigs vastly outnumber those going the other way from e-cigs to tobacco, what then?

9 posted on 08/18/2015 1:21:38 PM PDT by x
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To: Drango

For me, tobacco was a gateway to e-cigs.

It took 40 years, but I’m much happier and healthier for it.


10 posted on 08/18/2015 1:22:19 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler
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To: Drango

Another study publicized to influence behavior, or more likely, justify taxes on a new device.

Years ago, my wife was shown “Reefer Madness” in junior high health class, as a serious and informative health documentary.

Frankly, I don’t see why nicotine should be outlawed. Smoking is a nasty, carcinogenic form of delivery, but e-cigs appear to be innocuous. I know a neurotic chain smoker who has almost entirely switched over from cancer sticks to E-cigs for health reasons. I don’t see why e-cigs should be a gateway to anything (except perhaps “vaping” of other materials, which again is an improvement over combusting them).


11 posted on 08/18/2015 1:24:10 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: marron

Here is what Newt said about “government business”:

Civilization cannot survive with twelve-year-olds having babies, fifteen-year-olds shooting one another, seventeen-year-olds dying of AIDS, and eighteen-year-olds graduating with diplomas they cannot read. - Newt Gingrich (1997)


12 posted on 08/18/2015 1:24:12 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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I’ve been transitioning to e-cigs because as substitutes go they’re the closest you can get to the real thing. I’m under no illusions that inhaling antifreeze is good for me, but I’m now breathing easier, cough less and have a lot more energy.


13 posted on 08/18/2015 1:25:10 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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“We should not wait for a new generation to become addicted tobacco users to regulate e-cigarettes...

Money-line.
14 posted on 08/18/2015 1:25:27 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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Even you, someone not exactly known for either intellectual honesty, or even capacity, should be ashamed at citing a study with such a flawed conclusion.

"The study, which surveyed 14-year-olds in the ninth grade at 10 Los Angeles high schools, found that the kids who smoked e-cigarettes were 22.7 percent more likely to smoke combustible cigarettes the following year. "

The most likely explanation for this is that people who have a tendency to experiment with one activity, have a higher tendency to experiment with other activities. It shows ABSOLUTELY no causation (and, therefore, no "gateway").

Just because idiots at "thehill.com" fall for this type of pseudo-science, doesn't mean that normal people will.

Repeat: no causation - no gateway. And this study found no causation, at all. The worst science, which you are well familiar with, starts with breaking the cardinal rule of science: correlation does not imply causation.
15 posted on 08/18/2015 1:26:21 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (... but they have to go)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

Users of e-cigarettes are not going to move to use of “real” tobacco products, if the “real” thing is going to cost them a lot more money.

As far as “addiction” to nicotine goes, a lot of hype has gone into the supposed causes and effects, but the RITUAL of tapping out a fresh cigarette, holding it on the lips, lighting it up, drawing in a deep draft, tapping off the ashes in a suitable receptacle, and snubbing out the spent stub, are all of a pattern, which is never established with the use of a “vape” device.

Put it to your lips and drag away. And it doesn’t even have to have any nicotine involved whatsoever.


16 posted on 08/18/2015 1:27:30 PM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: jjsheridan5

It’s a JAMA study that the Hill reported.


17 posted on 08/18/2015 1:28:12 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Peter W. Kessler
Ecig have allowed hundreds of thousands of quit smoking tobacco immediately.

But once again those wanting to control/regulate every move we make have come out against it.

In a free America, these are extremely scary people.

18 posted on 08/18/2015 1:29:00 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Drango

Breathing is a gateway to all kinds of bad habits.


19 posted on 08/18/2015 1:31:00 PM PDT by RatRipper
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To: Drango

Stopped cigs the day I got my first e-cig, tried one years ago and couldn’t stand it. Ill remain digital till I can’t get the equipment any longer.


20 posted on 08/18/2015 1:31:13 PM PDT by Enigo54 (Hank Reardon was right)
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