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Study: E-cigs a gateway to smoking tobacco
the Hill ^ | 08/18/15 | Lydia Wheeler

Posted on 08/18/2015 1:13:01 PM PDT by Drango

Students in Los Angeles who used electronic cigarettes were more likely to start smoking combustible tobacco products like cigarettes, cigars and hookas, the Journal of American Medical Association (JAMA) found in a new study.

The study, which surveyed 14-year-olds in the ninth grade at 10 Los Angeles high schools, found that the kids who smoked e-cigarettes were 22.7 percent more likely to smoke combustible cigarettes the following year.

Citing 2014 U.S. estimates, JAMA said 16 percent of 10th graders reported use of e-cigarettes within the past 30 days, of whom 43 percent reported never having tried combustible cigarettes.

Health groups used the new data, released Tuesday, to renew efforts to push the Food and Drug Administration to finalize its tobacco deeming regulation and for the first time regulate all tobacco products, including e-cigarettes and cigars.

“We should not wait for a new generation to become addicted tobacco users to regulate e-cigarettes and prohibit marketing to minors,” American College of Cardiology President Kim Allan Williams Sr. said in a statement. “Changes in attitudes about smoking, regulation of advertising and the resulting declines in tobacco use have contributed significantly to reductions in heart disease wherever implemented around the world in the last 30 years.”

Williams said the FDA should move forward to prevent heart disease and maintain positive trends.

The American Heart Association said the findings should be yet another "wake-up call" to the FDA.

“As this study reinforces, we have a real problem on our hands," AHA CEO Nancy Brown said in a statement. "E-cigarette use has tripled among teens, according to a Centers for Disease Control and Prevention survey, and the evidence released today adds fuel to the fire."

Brown said the wait for a final deeming rule has gone on too long.

"It has been over a year since the FDA first released its proposal," she said. "As this study suggests, the public health nightmare that is tobacco is only getting worse and all tobacco products present risk.”


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To: Drango
Are you trying to imply that this does show causation? What exactly is your point? What in the world does it matter who conducted the study? The point is that it showed no causation, and yet causation was concluded.
21 posted on 08/18/2015 1:31:39 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (... but they have to go)
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To: jjsheridan5

See #1


22 posted on 08/18/2015 1:33:17 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango
Sure - talk about anything, anything other than the genuine threats in this country, i.e. terrorists living among us and Obama bringing more in by the month, a thirty year invasion from our Southern Border, along with the drug cartels who kill people and chop them up, not to mention PP killing babies in the womb and chopping them up to sell, ramped up murder in the black and minority communities where police are now told to quit harassing the perps, I could go on but you get the idea.

Then let's talk about smoking POT, no one seems to wonder what the serious health risks are there for say the smoker, second hand hazards for anyone present when pot is smoked - nope it's E Cigarettes that's out to endanger everyone!

23 posted on 08/18/2015 1:33:36 PM PDT by zerosix (Native Sunflower)
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To: Drango

And shame on JAMA using stats acquired from 9th graders from 10 schools in one city as reason to come to a valid “conclusion”.

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24 posted on 08/18/2015 1:38:13 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Drango

That same 20% would have found their way to cigarettes anyway. Both are illegal for them to buy.


25 posted on 08/18/2015 1:38:24 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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To: Drango
I ask you again. Don't point me to text. Answer in English. You posted this garbage, so man up and defend it. Where is the proof of causation? No causation means that this, at most, shows mere correlation, which could be caused by anything.

All this shows to me is that experimentative teens experiment on different things, as they go through their teen-age years. Where is the proof, or even evidence, of causation?
26 posted on 08/18/2015 1:38:42 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (... but they have to go)
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To: jjsheridan5

Asked and answered. See my comment in #1.


27 posted on 08/18/2015 1:41:06 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Drango

Then what is the point of showing a study which shows, nothing. It does not suggest “gateway”, because it shows no causation. You say it may take a while to show “more evidence”, but that implies that “some evidence” has been given, and it hasn’t. This is a worthless study leading idiots to the wrong conclusion.

This shows absolutely no evidence of there being a gateway effect.


28 posted on 08/18/2015 1:46:39 PM PDT by jjsheridan5 (... but they have to go)
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To: Drango

so.....how did people start smoking tobacco in the 5000 years before they were invented?


29 posted on 08/18/2015 1:46:50 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: dragnet2

As soon as some bureaucrat figures out how to tax e-cigs, the government will cheer lead for them.


30 posted on 08/18/2015 1:47:25 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler
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To: Drango
Civilization cannot survive with twelve-year-olds having babies, fifteen-year-olds shooting one another, seventeen-year-olds dying of AIDS, and eighteen-year-olds graduating with diplomas they cannot read. - Newt Gingrich (1997)

I like that quote.

A forty-year-old having a cigarette with his coffee at Denny's, society can survive.

31 posted on 08/18/2015 1:47:42 PM PDT by marron
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To: dragnet2

As soon as some bureaucrat figures out how to tax e-cigs, the government will cheer lead for them.


32 posted on 08/18/2015 1:49:00 PM PDT by Peter W. Kessler
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To: Drango

about 30years ago in Europe they did a study of Heroin Addicts, the study set out to prove that Marijuana was the real gateway drug to harder drugs, funny thing happened when they interviewed these people, almost none of them EVER SMOKED WEED, But Every Last one of them Smoked Cigarettes and Drank Alcohol. Study was subsequently buried and not widely publicized.


33 posted on 08/18/2015 1:49:52 PM PDT by eyeamok
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To: Fido969

Hey Tobacco bad... Wacky Tobaccy good.. Can’t smoke cigs but you can sure smoke MJ anywhere...


34 posted on 08/18/2015 1:52:59 PM PDT by tallyhoe
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To: Drango

At least half of the strip shopping centers in my town have Vape stores where the liquid “smoking” product is mixed on-site.

Regulation will wipe out most of them.


35 posted on 08/18/2015 2:01:32 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Peter W. Kessler

The issue is that they can’t tax e-cigs or nicotine liquids.

Batteries, wire, cotton, nicotine, VG/PG, food flavoring. There is no way for them to stop it but they keep trying to find something to hook onto.


36 posted on 08/18/2015 2:04:31 PM PDT by Read Write Repeat
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To: Drango

E-cigs are a gateway to people drawing attention to themselves.


37 posted on 08/18/2015 2:05:49 PM PDT by fso301
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To: eyeamok

Guarantee you more of those heroin addicts were prescribed legal painkillers, prior to their addiction, than smoked marijuana.


38 posted on 08/18/2015 2:09:26 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Drango

Bad parenting is a gateway to smoking and drugs and teenage pregnancy, so ban bad parents!


39 posted on 08/18/2015 2:20:55 PM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: CodeToad

Ill take offense for my parents for that comment. MY decisions were a result of ME, not them.


40 posted on 08/18/2015 3:30:20 PM PDT by Enigo54 (Hank Reardon was right)
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