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A Clarifying Moment for Conservatism (Purge Trump & Trumpism)
Commentary ^ | 08/14/2015 | Peter Wehner

Posted on 08/16/2015 12:44:47 PM PDT by nhwingut

In a compelling column, George Will – who knows a thing or two about conservatism – makes the conservative case against Donald Trump. Mr. Will refers to Trump as an “unprecedentedly and incorrigibly vulgar presidential candidate” who is coarsening our civic life. He labels Trump “a counterfeit Republican and no conservative.” And he argues that Trump is an affront to anyone devoted to the legacy of William F. Buckley, Jr., the founder of National Review and a giant in American conservatism. Just as Buckley excommunicated the John Birch Society from the conservative movement in the 1960s, so should conservatives today stand up to Trump and Trumpism.

Fortunately there are conservative commentators who are doing just that, including Bill Bennett, David Brooks, Mona Charen, Charles C.W. Cooke, Michael Gerson, Jonah Goldberg, Victor Davis Hanson, Charles Krauthammer, Matt Lewis, Rich Lowry, Michael Medved, Paul Mirengoff, Dana Perino, John Podhoretz, Karl Rove, Jennifer Rubin, Kevin Williamson, regular contributors to this web site (among them Max Boot, Noah Rothman and Jonathan Tobin), editorial page writers for the Wall Street Journal and others.

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To: nhwingut

Do he-and his compadres-not realize most of us have stopped giving their diatribes any credence?

George Will is NOT conservative-he is just another GOPe bulls*** commentator-especially since he claims Rove, Lowry et al are “conservative” as well...


41 posted on 08/16/2015 1:24:05 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: nhwingut

As someone on FR said.. Here’s a newsflash George: “No one gives a rat’s ass what you think anymore.”

George has past his time and past his prime if he ever had one. His principled conservatism and bow tie and tasseled loafers are what have contributed in HUGE part to what has brought us to this precipice.

The Rats have brought knives to the fight for a long time and all conservatives like Will have done is bleed on them.


42 posted on 08/16/2015 1:24:39 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: nhwingut

BTW... I’ve completely turned Bill Bennett off in the mornings. He stepped in it with his undying support of Paul Ryan but he clenched his demise with me on a number of subsequent issues where he is clearly a pubbie-elitist.

I have never been an adherent of buckley or even national review... just more of the same pubbie-elite and they gotta go. They have led us to ruin.

Dana Perino? cute but not material to me.

he argues that Trump is an affront to anyone devoted to the legacy of William F. Buckley, Jr., the founder of National Review and a giant in American conservatism. Just as Buckley excommunicated the John Birch Society from the conservative movement in the 1960s, so should conservatives today stand up to Trump and Trumpism.

Fortunately there are conservative commentators who are doing just that, including Bill Bennett, David Brooks, Mona Charen, Charles C.W. Cooke, Michael Gerson, Jonah Goldberg, Victor Davis Hanson, Charles Krauthammer, Matt Lewis, Rich Lowry, Michael Medved, Paul Mirengoff, Dana Perino, John Podhoretz, Karl Rove, Jennifer Rubin, Kevin Williamson, regular contributors to this web site (among them Max Boot, Noah Rothman and Jonathan Tobin), editorial page writers for the Wall Street Journal and others.


43 posted on 08/16/2015 1:28:56 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchaned our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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To: Melinator

The higher chambers hasn’t told them what to say yet.


44 posted on 08/16/2015 1:30:00 PM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: Cowboy Bob; FR_addict

Thanks: I will follow through. I had some exchanges with him many years ago. At that time I noticed that he was an admirer of the European parliamentary system rather than our constitutional system. But I did not realize that he had gone overboard for the Great Pretender. He lived for many years, although I do not know if he still does, in the oldest section of Chevy Chase in what is known as “Chevy Chase Village.” I do not believe that any who could be sons of the Great Pretender live there. I can only imagine that he fell for the Great Pretender’s sonorous oratory without asking the crucial question of what was really said and what actual positions were taken, if any.


45 posted on 08/16/2015 1:30:57 PM PDT by AmericanVictory (Should we be more like them or they more like we used to be?)
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To: Lurkinanloomin
“Fortunately there are conservative commentators who are doing just that, including Bill Bennett, David Brooks, Mona Charen, Charles C.W. Cooke, Michael Gerson, Jonah Goldberg, Victor Davis Hanson, Charles Krauthammer, Matt Lewis, Rich Lowry, Michael Medved, Paul Mirengoff, Dana Perino, John Podhoretz, Karl Rove, Jennifer Rubin, Kevin Williamson”

Could it be that this list of talking heads represent snobbery and that this is the basis for the branding of Trump supporters as “chumps, idiots, and intellectually inferior buffoons?

46 posted on 08/16/2015 1:32:44 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: socal_parrot

“Supported Planned Parenthood on Hannity
Supported a single payer option in the recent debate
Supported TARP
Supported assault weapons ban
Supported extending waiting period to purchase guns
Supported taxing the wealthy to pay down debt
Supported the Clinton Foundation, consulted Bill before running”

So? Find me a candidate that is saying “Deport them all” and I’ll support him.

Until then, it’s Trump for me...unless you can FIND ANOTHER that can hold a candle to him on Immigration.


47 posted on 08/16/2015 1:34:51 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'profile' page))
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To: nhwingut

Go Cruz...

Go Trump...


48 posted on 08/16/2015 1:35:10 PM PDT by Gator113 (~~Cruz, OR LOSE~~ Ted Cruz REMAINS the only true Conservative in this race. ~~ just livin' life~~)
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To: Jim Robinson

Jim, this is clearly your site, your playground - how does a guy who gives millions to Clinton not = RINO? I like what he said about criminal illegals because we are fighting it here in Dallas, but what about abortion, what about PORK. Trump has lived on bankruptcy and eminent domain. I’m not getting why so many folks are “going all in” for a TV personality.


49 posted on 08/16/2015 1:36:05 PM PDT by q_an_a (the more laws the less justiceHis true reco)
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To: Sequoyah101

You are dead on about the Rats bringing knives, while people like Will are too prissy to bring their own and give them what they deserve, good and hard. People like Will are so tightassed they squeak when they walk...


50 posted on 08/16/2015 1:37:14 PM PDT by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: socal_parrot
Trump is not even close to being a conservative.

Agreed. And we do have candidates running who are more conservative than Trump. Plus, imo, Trump lacks the character and temperament--by far--to be president. So I do not support his candidacy at all.

51 posted on 08/16/2015 1:38:47 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: Pontiac

Trump Is Making History!

You can have the past.


52 posted on 08/16/2015 1:45:05 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Charles Henrickson

What does Trump lack that, say, FDR had. Except a radical liberal point of view that goes so far as to shove itself down conservatives’ throats (Trump seems to be pretty respectful in that category even when he differs in personal position).

I see a fallacy in an implicit assumption here that people are constant quantities. That you have to bring human virtue to the table before you can see virtue at it. Well that might be true for human virtue, on a worldly plane, but that ignores the God before whom “the heart of the king is like water; He turns it whatever way he wishes.”

If you look at whom Trump is NOT an adamant enemy of (hint: Cruz is among them), you start to get a bigger picture.


53 posted on 08/16/2015 1:46:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: q_an_a

Cruz is my man. But I’m loving every minute of Trump blasting the RINOs.


54 posted on 08/16/2015 1:48:05 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: Jim Robinson

Amen, Amen, Amen


55 posted on 08/16/2015 1:49:53 PM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Cowboy Bob

Well, there you go. Let’s kick Will out of the GOP. If he stays, then we leave! ...along with Cruz and others.


56 posted on 08/16/2015 1:51:25 PM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: HiTech RedNeck
What does Trump lack that, say, FDR had?

Where do you get the idea that I think FDR was OK? I don't. In fact, I think that FDR has done more lasting damage to our country than any other president. He is the Father of Big Government.

57 posted on 08/16/2015 1:56:10 PM PDT by Charles Henrickson (Social and constitutional conservative)
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To: nhwingut

“In a compelling column, George Will – who knows a thing or two about conservatism”

No need to read any further

L


58 posted on 08/16/2015 2:00:40 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: nhwingut

If RINOs like George Will and Karl Rove are against you then you can be assured that you are on the Right path.

I would wear that list of people against him as a badge of honor.


59 posted on 08/16/2015 2:07:13 PM PDT by CCGuy (USAF (Ret.))
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To: Pontiac
The question is; does he mean them?

Since when has that counted for anything? How many candidates in the GOP have ever meant anything they say? The Tea Party elected Rubio. How did that work out?

Trump is at least brave enough to go against the grain and fight back.

60 posted on 08/16/2015 2:12:59 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (Resistance to Tyrants is obedience to God)
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