Posted on 08/16/2015 12:42:58 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump wants more than a wall to keep out immigrants living in the country illegally. He also wants to end "birthright citizenship" for their children, he said Sunday. And he would rescind Obama administration executive orders on immigration and toughen deportation, allowing in only "the good ones."
Trump described his expanded vision of how to secure American borders during a wide-ranging interview Sunday on NBC's "Meet The Press," saying that he would push to end the constitutionally protected right of any family living illegally inside the U.S. ...
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And this is not gratuitous, for its own sake, scapegoating... (and I’m a little surprised the lefties aren’t screaming exactly that yet) — he has his finger on a very real challenge to America. It can’t be the dole nanny for everyone who walks in. As Thatcher said, the Other People’s Money account is getting low.
and no more baby drops!! Don’t want em. Don’t need ‘em. And Trump can do it like obama does now— He just signs an executive order. To hell with the Law. A “phone and a PEN!!” Dats it . That is all he needs NOW to stop it , Rights DEMS?. Just don’t enforce the law!! Issue a regulation. To Hell with CONGRESS!! To hell with SCOTUS. We are going to follow the precedence set by BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA!! NO MORE BIRTH RIGHT CITIZENSHIP!!
Obama rewrote our Constitution and Congressional laws by fiat and the GOPe and judicial system did nothing to stop him.
Why wouldn’t Trump do the same?
Cruz is my first choice.
But there’s NO WAY the party elites will ever let him get the nomination.
They picked Jeb. Jeb has $120 million raised. He’s the anointed choice by the elites.
Only Trump, via self funding, can stop Jeb from getting the nomination.
It’s Jeb vs. Donald at this point. Don’t fool yourself thinking otherwise.
And Hilary isn’t who Obama wants to follow her. She is too ‘conservative’ for Obama and there’s a ton of hatred between the two (remember the naked pictures of Zero’s mom? That was Hillary’s machine that dug them up.) She is going to be cast aside soon.
Because if they give birth while on American soil the child is automatically an American citizen. Doesn’t matter if the parents are here illegally or not.
Then because the child is an American citizen, it’s easier for said illegal parents to bypass the citizenship line and become a de-facto American with all of our precious rights and freedoms. On your dime and mine.
That’s the loophole. Get your wife here and have her give birth. You win.
Plain and simple. Cruz has no chance of becoming President, unless Trump dropped out and endorsed him with full financial backing. That’s it. That’s reality. Anyone that says otherwise is beating around the Bush. It’s unfortunate, but it’s true.
Also your statement about hildabeast. Once she’s out. Who do the democrats have? Old boring socialists who inspire nothing and nobody to vote for them.
If America loses this election I will be utterly shocked and start thinking about moving to somewhere else.
The Dems likely have someone in the wings. Another Obama.
Cory Booker is my guess.
The real irony is that there are those here on FR that consider him to be "Mr. Amnesty" because of his comments about kicking them all out and then expediting the legal process for those that have something of value to offer.
I like his "overheated rhetoric" including the bit about keeping families together - if the parents go, the kids go with them.
I guess the fact that some throw fits because they think he's for amnesty makes me wonder if our side is as rational as we think.
The Trump’s immigration plan is the best one on the market right now.
I am glad to see him flesh it out with these details. Most Americans (including legal Spanish Americans) want these types of measures taken to protect our sovereignty and what it means to be an American.
Irrespective of what this Administration’s, the RINOs, and the Progressive lib’s Caesar Chavez’s say on the matter.
Loophole? I put it up there with the constant omission of the 2nd’s “...shall not be infringed.”: judicial activism and deprivation of Rights under color of Law (IE: Treason).
There are NO ‘anchor babies’, the clear wording of the 14th negates any such conclusion. One must twist and omit the clear English to reach such a conclusion.
The existing interpretation of the 14th Amendment is not as intended. I saw Napolitano on Fox this morning and even he doesn't understand the history.
Yes my FRiend—from Spain.
And you nailed what I was getting at.
Thank you!
I see a lot of short squat illegal aliens who have Indian noses whom I would not call “Hispanic” nor “Latino”
their ancestors were Incas or Mayans...
I just call them illegal alien Mexicans..
A “Hispanic” has some kind of European features and is recognizable as having Spanish ancestry..usually the nose is the give away..
and the normal height..
Exactly!
A “Hispanic” has ties to the old Roman Province of Hispania, or Spain.
A “Latin” is a European, who can trace their ancestry to the Latinized European nations (France, Italy, Spain, Romania, Portugal).
This is perhaps the most misleading WaPo headline ever.
I am absolutely in no way a Trump supporter, but I agree with much of his immigration proposal.
Birthright citizenship can be changed in law, but would be subject to SCOTUS interpretation of “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” in the Citizenship Clause.
Either the jurisdiction specifically refers to people the Federal Government recognized, and given the intent of the 14th Amendment this meant indigenous people and former slaves, or it refers to everyone in the country, regardless of government recognition. The latter would assume the only people not “subject to the jurisdiction thereof” would be foreign diplomats.
Today’s SCOTUS would be a huge risk.
I do not think a Constitutional Amendment would be a hard sell. The U.K., Ireland, France, Germany, Australia, New Zealand, and many other western nations restrict jus soli so one or more of the parents must be at least legal permanent residents.
I would also like an English as the official language law, and conversational English required as part of naturalization. I was always taught the 5-year waiting period between getting permanent residence and obtaining citizenship was because it was assumed with full immersion it took an average of five years to reach a conversational level of the local language.
I live in an upscale neighborhood in suburban Atlanta. My children go to a high-end daycare provider. There is a new problem in the preschools here. 4-year olds, born in the United States to foreign parents, come into Pre-K with no English language ability. They have been nannied by their grandparents, who speak no English, who were brought over under our chain migration policies. These older foreigners can buy into Medicare Part A for $407/month. They, like everyone, have to pay the $105/month for Part B, and whatever they choose for Part D. The premiums cover about half the average cost of Medicare—in other words, the taxpayers are subsidizing these older immigrants. These older foreigners get their Indian or Korean or Chinese television channels via satellite. The Koreans can listen to Korean radio on the AM dial. The Indians can go to local Bollywood movie multiplexes. This is an issue where legal immigrants do not assimilate.
Of course, the Latino’s (which include a large portion of illegal immigrants) not only have a half a dozen AM and FM radio stations, they can get Univision and Telemundo television free over the air. The era of immigrant babies being sat in front of the TV to watch Captain Kangaroo and Sesame Street and learn English through osmosis are over. They ended for poor Hispanics in large metro areas two decades ago, and they have ended for middle-class legal Asian immigrants since.
Secure the border. End birthright citizenship. End chain migration. Repeal and replace the 1965 Ted Kennedy immigration law. Stop the H-1B Visa fraud. Make English the official language.
What a joke . These idiots actually believe that “ subject to the jurisdiction there of” is even referring to SCOTUS? . Trump will end ,in the future “birth right citizenship” with an executive order!! Like obama granted amnesty and attacked fossil fuels. All Trump needs is “ a phone and a pen” That’s all the communist in the White House uses. That is all we are going to use!!
No constitution is needed. Reread the 14th ammendment. It doesn’t apply to the children of people here illegally. The only Supreme Court ruling refers to legal aliens.
Yeah, that's why his numbers keep going up.
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