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Davis: F-35B External Weapons Give Marines 4th, 5th Generation Capabilities in One Plane
USNI News ^ | August 13, 2015 | Megan Eckstein

Posted on 08/13/2015 11:23:54 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki

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1 posted on 08/13/2015 11:23:54 PM PDT by sukhoi-30mki
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To: sukhoi-30mki

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2 posted on 08/13/2015 11:41:01 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

How do you have 5th gen stealth with external stores???


3 posted on 08/13/2015 11:43:15 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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The point was that it can go from 5th without the pylons, take out the anti-air infrastructure, then load it up with a 4rth gen payload for bomb truck missions.


4 posted on 08/13/2015 11:48:13 PM PDT by Mr. Blond
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To: sukhoi-30mki

external weapons= not stealth


5 posted on 08/14/2015 12:13:28 AM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

So will it protect the grunts better than anything else?


6 posted on 08/14/2015 12:24:10 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It’ll still lose in a turn fight.


7 posted on 08/14/2015 12:39:34 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: huldah1776

No. It can’t fly slow enough to be a top-notch close air support platform.

It’s a one hundred percent purebred congressional brother in law contract stinker.


8 posted on 08/14/2015 12:53:10 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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9 posted on 08/14/2015 1:22:36 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

It is cheaper to network radars and write programs that assemble and analyze the tiny blips and determine that, yes, its no bigger than a sparrow, but it’s moving at Mach 1. Then, they’ll launch a cloud of visual tracking drones to shoot it down.

To me the article says the Marines need a different plane.

The future of aircraft in battle is to be pilotless, cheap and disposable. Watch the Israelis in the Iran war and see how its done.


10 posted on 08/14/2015 2:40:04 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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Yea, I don’t see stealth being that big of an advantage for much longer. Radar and computers are more sophisticated than ever. And anything that moves through a fluid is gonna leave a wake.


11 posted on 08/14/2015 3:13:05 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: Jack Hydrazine

SR71 wasn’t stealth, just awesome.

The F35 certainly isn’t the F22. It’s 5th-gen, but not in the same league. The F22 is incredible - not that the F35 isn’t.

From someone who worked on the AIM-120.


12 posted on 08/14/2015 3:32:19 AM PDT by some tech guy (Stop trying to help, Obama)
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To: sukhoi-30mki

Recently saw one of these on approach to the USMC Air Station in Beaufort SC. LOUD!
I opened the sunroof as it passed over and killed our ears, looked in back and the kids were grinning a mile wide..


13 posted on 08/14/2015 4:36:38 AM PDT by jughandle (Big words anger me, keep talking.)
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To: Axenolith

Carrying internal has been a problem. F-35 is a huge disappointment at a massive cost.


14 posted on 08/14/2015 4:46:57 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising a new Civil War needs to happen.)
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F-35 is the biggest FAILURE Congress has shoved onto the military.
Designed to "do everything for everybody", is does NOTHING WELL.
SCRAP IT !
15 posted on 08/14/2015 4:57:14 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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“...anything that moves through a fluid is gonna leave a wake.”

my knowledge of aircraft doesn’t go beyond the curiosity to look up when one flies over. That said, your comment about “wake” speaks volumes. Simply consider a thermostat kicking in when someone “pushes” air walking through a house on a cold morning. Heck, even the bulk of our 15 lb. dog trips a motion detector connected night light.
Perhaps worth more than a tolerant smile are acoustic sensors. In some pre-radar day and perhaps as late as Vietnam, human ears or directional acoustic horns were used for aircraft detection. Technology will now allow sounds to be sorted by various criteria such as level & frequency range.
Unlike submarines, aircraft haven’t a hope of “silent running”.


16 posted on 08/14/2015 5:14:42 AM PDT by Huaynero
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“No. It can’t fly slow enough to be a top-notch close air support platform.”

Er...the F-35B can fly slow and even hover...

The other thing is that with precision munitions the troops can call in strikes accurately from high altitude aircraft.


17 posted on 08/14/2015 5:37:42 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty
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“Yea, I don’t see stealth being that big of an advantage for much longer.”

How does stealth help you when you are just whacking ISIS bastards with no aircover? For that you want cheap, slow flying, bullet proof bomb and bullet trucks.

We’ve put all our eggs in one very expensive basket.


18 posted on 08/14/2015 5:57:21 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: sukhoi-30mki
Very interesting how it's coming together and how it will morph into the best beast for the job at hand.

And they're barely just getting started playing with their new toy.

Wait until they've messed around with it for a while out playing in the mud and dirt and figure out what all it can do!

True, it's not a pretty F-16, but so what? We've already got a bunch of them.

From here, it looks like an interesting mix of motorhead and geek hot rodding standards.

It takes the biggest motor and the biggest computer and shoves them both into one fairly stealthy/sexy package that blows stuff up.

What's not to like?

19 posted on 08/14/2015 6:13:28 AM PDT by GBA (Just a hick in paradise)
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Yea, stealth doesn’t help with that. Just let the Hog Driver loose on ISIS. They’ll rain the pain down on them.


20 posted on 08/14/2015 6:27:15 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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