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You can LOVE the conversations Trump has started and how he has poked Mitch and the gOpE in the eye ... and still not want him as the conservative candidate for POTUS.
1 posted on 07/29/2015 8:56:33 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross
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To: Servant of the Cross

“Does He Understand the 2008 Economic Crash?”

Why wouldn’t he?


2 posted on 07/29/2015 8:59:58 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Bush did more damage to the GOP than Trump could ever do.

Bush finished with one of the lowest approval numbers in history.

27% to be exact. Yep. That is 27%.

And that gave us Obama...Thanks Bush.


3 posted on 07/29/2015 9:02:17 AM PDT by tennmountainman ("Prophet Mountainman" Predicter Of All Things RINO...for a small pittance.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

Didn’t Trump graduate from Wharton?

Maybe a better question is does McCain understand aerodynamics?


5 posted on 07/29/2015 9:03:41 AM PDT by Paulie (America without Christianity is like a Chemistry book without the periodic table.)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I blame Bush only to the extent that he didn’t use his veto power to kill really stupid economic policies/legislation. For reasons I simply don’t understand, he, and the GOP in general, only gave lip service to fighting the liberal agenda...a behavior that’s still in place today. While I think Harry Reid is probably the dumbest person on the planet, the GOP let him run roughshod over them. By contrast, McConnell and Boehner have no spine for fighting for us conservatives. Both should be tarred and feathered and banished to the Democrat party where they belong.


6 posted on 07/29/2015 9:04:29 AM PDT by econjack (I'm not bossy...I just know what you should be doing.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
it was in fact precisely the Democrats who ‘DONE THAT.

Yes. Barney Frank (and one long-gone senator) forced the banks to make loans to those who could never pay them back and the system crashed as a result. The mutual funds had a bigger role to play. That is where the real fraud occurred. The real guilty parties have never gone to jail as they should, and the taxpayers were left holding the bag by both parties and the fed itself. It was the most CORRUPT thing ever done to America.

8 posted on 07/29/2015 9:06:50 AM PDT by Rapscallion (America's government deliberately misleads the people.)
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To: Servant of the Cross
"You can LOVE the conversations Trump has started"

That's the only reason I semi support Trump at this moment. His past statements suggest he is not a real conservative. He certainly doesn't understand the financial meltdown created by the Dems (under Clinton) and mostly fostered by them. Plus, there's his strong support of the Kelo SC decision.

10 posted on 07/29/2015 9:10:03 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: Servant of the Cross

That depends on how well one understands Jaime Gorelick, Franklin Raines and James Johnson and the collusion and diversion of their activities provided by Barnie Frank and Maxine Waters.


11 posted on 07/29/2015 9:11:02 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: C. Edmund Wright; Servant of the Cross

“Trump even went so far on Morning Joe to exonerate all Democrats by specifically saying “when the economy crashed so horribly under George Bush, because of mistakes they (Republicans) made…with banking and a lot of other things… I don’t think the Democrats would have done that.”

I don’t for one minute believe that Trump is terminally obtuse. When Trump is in front of a liberal audience, he blames Republicans, and when speaking to Republicans, he blames Dems. I have traced this enough to know it to hold true.

One of your best efforts here, by the way.


13 posted on 07/29/2015 9:12:35 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (My Batting Average( 1,000) (GOPe is that easy to read))
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To: Servant of the Cross
But Does He Understand the 2008 Economic Crash?
He chose to not participate.

2008 crash?...Bush was still President wasn't he? Did anybody here vote for Bush?...TWICE

14 posted on 07/29/2015 9:12:37 AM PDT by lewislynn ( Hillary = Obama in a pantsuit)
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To: Servant of the Cross

I recall Treasurer Paulson going to the foolish Bush to push a crony bank bailout called TARP that I’m not so certain was necessary for a coming mild recession that should not have lasted more than couple of quarters. In comes Commie Obama who makes a small and mild recession last for years that lingers to this day. And moreover, DUmb McCain suspending his campaign to go to DC in support of it.


19 posted on 07/29/2015 9:18:28 AM PDT by Red Steel (Ted Cruz: 'I'm a Big Fan of Donald Trump')
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To: Servant of the Cross
Yes,loans to too many people in tenuous financial positions was the root cause but the timing was set up to be the October Surprise. Soros and Putin leveraged the oil futures market and voila, cant buy gas and make payment on house loans.
22 posted on 07/29/2015 9:21:44 AM PDT by maddogtiger
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To: Servant of the Cross
"the economic problems were clearly set in motion by several decades of liberal policies on lending, housing, mortgages, energy exploration and refining, and more recently, crony and esoteric derivatives on Wall Street"

Things the Republicans eagerly participated n, especially when they had control in both Houses of Congress and POTUS.

29 posted on 07/29/2015 9:34:48 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18 - Be The Leaderless Resistance)
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To: Servant of the Cross
Yep, but no point in discouraging him now.

We were going absolutely nowhere until he jumped in.

30 posted on 07/29/2015 9:37:34 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: Servant of the Cross

The writer takes notice that the 2008 Crash was pretty much the fault of Republicans, According To Donald Trump, in Iowa this week.

The writer gives us another direct quote of Donald Trump spoken on MSNBC, in New York City, where he is heard to lay the causes for the 2008 Crash at the feet of Republicans and saying of their work that.... “ I don’t believe Democrats would have done that”.

The writer is wrong to notice there is not a shred of responsibility to lay at the feet of the Hand Out Party of Democrats????

Everyone who heard Donald on these occasions had to wonder what other universe he must have occupied to so totally miss the Democrat history of meddling with our economy and transferring wealth to give them a complete pass.

I’m sure Democrats had to bang the water out of their ears when they heard Trump lay out these credits to their party.

It was a weird moment, I recall.


31 posted on 07/29/2015 9:43:40 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming)
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To: Servant of the Cross

You can bet the Donald will surround himself with some of the best and brightest minds in the country, and one would think he’s not beholden to a bunch of political hacks.


42 posted on 07/29/2015 10:09:26 AM PDT by kenmcg
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To: Servant of the Cross

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“Trump even went so far on Morning Joe to exonerate all Democrats by specifically saying “when the economy crashed so horribly under George Bush, because of mistakes they (Republicans) made…with banking and a lot of other things… I don’t think the Democrats would have done that.”

First, I agree with the author as to 2008 causes.

But Trump may be being very clever here. Whatever you want to say about 2008, it is “ancient history”. Will we make the same mistake(s) again? Probably, in slightly different guise. but my point is that it’s gone, it’s “done”. Dodd-Frank, which came out of it, is stupid, destructive law, but it is nevertheless the law. So, pointing fingers over 2008, a topic that very very few people understand or even have the capability of understanding....is a no win. The lesson from sales is: It simply connects people to their pain, and if he ragged on it, it would come out of Trump’s mouth. This you do not want to do.

Trump’s BIG issue is immigration, and that is now and for the future. In immigration, black-letter law is being disregarded. That’s “fatal”.

If Trump has really had a conservative conversion (I do not know, I don’t think anyone can know) and wishes to mouth off about every aspect and topic he thinks are Dems fault(s) he could alienate a lot of people and maybe he is trying to sidle up to disaffected Dems by no discomforting them about everything they ever believed in.


43 posted on 07/29/2015 10:35:18 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder
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To: Servant of the Cross
I want him as POTUS because Trump DOES understand economics, better than most, and better than the author of this article.

The cause of the 2008 crisis was the stupid trade policies that had been placed in effect for decades and weakened the economy, combined with an oil price shock the likes of which we hadn't had since the 1970's.

Every economic downturn looks like a real estate bubble and a mortgage criss. The reason is that when people lose jobs they stop making the mortgage payment. They could afford the mortgage when they had jobs. Mortgages are a symptom not a cause.

Trump gets that stupid trade policies are causing the de-industrialization of America and our high unemployment. Illegal immigration hasn't helped either, but Trade policy is the primary cause. Listen to Trumps Phoenix speech. He lays out several examples of our trading partners not treating us fairly. And in each case, he has a solution. A solution that might not even need to be implemented. It just needs somebody credible to threaten to implement his solution and we will get treated fairly.

But only Trump understands this, no other candidate does. If Cruz understood it, he wouldn't have been trying to give Obama fast track trade authority for even more job killing free trade aggreements, and he wouldn't have killed the Export-Import bank.

45 posted on 07/29/2015 11:12:49 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: Servant of the Cross; Jim Robinson; nathanbedford; Jeff Head
and still not want him as the conservative candidate for POTUS

What is your objective in nominating a "conservative candidate for POTUS"?

Is it to gain a victory over the thoroughly revolting GOPe? Is it to elect a President? Is it both?

Why do you think conservatives could not elect a US Senator from Mississippi last November?

How many persons who voted for "Obama" do you need to vote for your guy on the general? How many persons who did not vote in 2008 or 2012 do you need to vote for your guy in the general?

Are either of these realistic?

How many Republicans who voted for McCain or Romney will not vote for a conservative? Have you factored those in?

I believe that 20% of the electorate that voted for "Obama" is up for grabs. I believe that 30% of voters who voted for McCain and Romney will not vote for a conservative.

If the border invasion is not stopped, the rest won't matter to our children.

You see where this is going.

I know five blue-collar Dems who already have their Trump signs out in the yard.

I really do think he may be the only one who can stop the invasion AND who could get elected.

YMMV, of course.

60 posted on 07/29/2015 1:41:41 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain)
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