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Dylann Roof, Charleston Shooting Suspect, Is Expected to Face Federal Hate Crime Charges
New York Times ^ | July 22, 2015 | MATT APUZZO

Posted on 07/22/2015 10:26:35 AM PDT by reaganaut1

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To: reaganaut1

Perhaps this means he can be sentenced to drawing and quartering.


21 posted on 07/22/2015 10:38:05 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: arthurus

> Much better would be a 30 day Life sentence.

Turn him loose in Flint or Detroit, MI. No more taxpayer expense. The state won’t even have to execute him, just do the cleanup.


22 posted on 07/22/2015 10:39:29 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Buckeye McFrog
"uhhh....after all those state counts of capital murder, what’s the point?"

To pad statistics

23 posted on 07/22/2015 10:39:37 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: reaganaut1

That means he gets a Double-dose of poison


24 posted on 07/22/2015 10:39:48 AM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: reaganaut1

Yet the terrorist who killed five brave men in Tennessee has been declared a “Home Grown Violent Extremist” no mention of it being a hate crime or even terrorism


25 posted on 07/22/2015 10:41:11 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: reaganaut1

Has any competent court ever ruled on the constitutionality of “hate crime” laws?


26 posted on 07/22/2015 10:41:25 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain)
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Yep, waste time and Taxpayer money adding a Thought Crime Charge when Prosecuting a Mass Murderer.

That will show him.

27 posted on 07/22/2015 10:41:37 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If you can't beat them, try, try again.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

He’ll be murdered in prison anyway. Team Al will see to that.


28 posted on 07/22/2015 10:41:38 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: CivilWarBrewing

guess that being jihad-fueled DOES NOT COUNT...


29 posted on 07/22/2015 10:41:49 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: reaganaut1

Hate Crimes!?

SERIOUSLY?

I’m Shocked, SHOCKED!

Just because some evil man guns down people in church, how can you infer it was hate and not an act of love? Abortion advocates tell us that abortion is an act of love all the time!

/SSO (serious sarcasm off)


30 posted on 07/22/2015 10:42:54 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“Hate crime” comes under the heading “social justice”, and therefore double jeopardy would not be an issue.

But “social justice” itself has little to do with either justice or actual crimes. Mostly it is a “feel-good” doctrine, inventing a whole new category of victimhood, most of which, astonishingly, was already a subject of crime under existing statutes.


31 posted on 07/22/2015 10:43:28 AM PDT by alloysteel (If Stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out? - Will Rogers.)
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To: reaganaut1
The point of this is the opportunity to grandstand.

Google "Joseph Paul Franklin." Back in the 1970s, he shot and killed a black jogger in Utah because he didn't like the fact that he was jogging with a white woman.

The state wanted to try him for murder and stand him before a firing squad.

The federalistas would have none of that, so they played their trump card and tried him on a hate crime charge. Since the hate crime carried a long prison sentence and not the death penalty, guess what Mr. Franklin did after he got out?

He created more opportunities to wave the "hate crime" banner rather than turning him into worm food as should have been done in the first place.

32 posted on 07/22/2015 10:43:29 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

No, I don’t think so. He will never be in general population. And the powers that be want a show trial (although a regular one with a quick execution would do just fine).


33 posted on 07/22/2015 10:43:57 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: reaganaut1

As usual, I disapprove of “hate crime” charges. Try him for murder, convict him, and execute him. I don’t see why anyone would care whether he loved or hated his victims if the result was an unprovoked, premeditated murder.


34 posted on 07/22/2015 10:46:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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But not Mohammed.

Islam is special.


35 posted on 07/22/2015 10:46:44 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (WSJs approval of law-breaking and disdain for the Bill of Rights reveals anti-American principles)
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To: jsanders2001

I like the way you think.


36 posted on 07/22/2015 10:47:05 AM PDT by windcliff
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To: Buckeye McFrog
uhhh....after all those state counts of capital murder, what’s the point?

If someone who hates me, kills me then I'm "deader".

Right?

/s

Actually, it helps with their statistics about this group or that group being "haters" so they can ban the symbols of the group and eventually, the group.

Meanwhile the "Death to America", "Destroy the Great Satan" and "Israel must be wiped off the Map!" crown are now "Our Trustworthy Allies in the Glorious Quest for Peace in the Middle East" (and subquent Nobel Prizes).

37 posted on 07/22/2015 10:49:05 AM PDT by BwanaNdege (.)
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To: Vigilanteman

They want a bogie to flog in effigy in public whenever those dixie rednecks start getting too uppity.


38 posted on 07/22/2015 10:51:19 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: reaganaut1

Hate Crimes are to normalize “thought’ control and “thought crimes”—all subjective to make unequal justice the “norm” and put power in the hands of Courts and psychologists (pseudo-science).

They are trying to morph us into an irrational Stalin System of subjective laws (State is god)—where the Court can just say you are crazy and lock you away for life or take away freedoms.

It is a Marxist technique for unequal treatment under the law (unconstitutional) and it gives them a powerful tool to normalize the idea of “Thought Crime” so eventually they can just make-up reasons to lock away their enemies or kill them like Stalin did. (They pay for the psych “results” and control what they say). There was a book I read about how the attorneys buy the “specialists”-—and you can ALWAYS find one who will be a sell-out and lie. It is a dangerous, evil system.

It is the slippery slope and it removes Rule of Law (equal under the Law-—some murders are worse than others, as if that matters to the murdered or families). Acts only should be the consideration for punishment in a true Justice System. All crime is “hate” so it really doesn’t matter to discern which is the more evil type of “hate”. It is dumb and a waste of money and time. Stick to Facts-—subjective theories are just for rhetoric and emotions and theater, and actually eliminates true, equal justice.


39 posted on 07/22/2015 10:51:44 AM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: reaganaut1

Naturally. This allows the federal government to rush in if they don’t like the verdict at the state level.


40 posted on 07/22/2015 10:58:26 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country)
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