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A Reality Check on Donald Trump
RedState ^ | 7/21/2015 | Erick Erickson

Posted on 07/21/2015 8:00:31 PM PDT by iowamark

Let’s have a reality check on Donald Trump for just a minute.

He is a Hillary Clinton donor. Many of Trump’s supporters rationalize that by saying he is a good businessman and had to give to Democrats.

He is also a donor to a host of other Democrats. “Well,” they say, “he lives in New York City. If he lived in a Republican state he would not be.”

He has supported a Canadian style universal healthcare system. His supporters believe he has evolved.

In 2012, he said Mitt Romney’s “self-deportation” immigration scheme was too harsh. Again, his supporters say, he has evolved.

Trump had been a supporter of abortion rights and told MSNBC he was evolving on gay marriage. His supporters say those are not their issues.

When Trump said he’d never asked God for forgiveness, his core supporters said they thought religion was supposed to be a private affair anyway.

When Trump said McCain was not a war hero, his core supporters applauded because Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) 60% had called them hobbits, racists, and more.

Essentially, his supporters do not care that Trump’s past actions align with the Democrats from immigration to healthcare to social issues to donations. They don’t care, because Trump is causing problems for a Republican Party that they’ve decided does not care about them. His supporters’ excuses are rationalizations about his behavior, not necessarily sincerely held beliefs by his supporters.

With the GOP back in charge of Congress, lobbyists are having a field day. Profits look to be up.

The GOP told its voters that if they elected them, they’d stop Barack Obama. Instead, they gave Barack Obama a blank check to raise the debt ceiling to avoid a fight with him.

They told the base that they’d hold Barack Obama accountable. Instead, they did not blink in approving his replacement for Eric Holder.

They told the base they would stand up against crony capitalists. Right now they are set to reauthorize the Ex-Im Bank.

They told the GOP that they would fight against Obamacare. When Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% said they should stop funding it, they left footprints on his back as they ran over him to stand shoulder to shoulder with Barack Obama.

When the Republican leadership told their voters and the nation that they’d oppose amnesty, they went straight to Washington to not only authorize it, but call anyone who disagreed with them racist. Many of the Republicans flat out lied on the issue and could not even be bothered to seal the border first.

With the Iranian deal, again the Republicans let Barack Obama out maneuver them. “The reality is that right now Trump is the only candidate in the GOP who matters because he is the only candidate creating significant buzz.”

So here comes Donald Trump who is not just running against Barack Obama, but he is running against Republicans in Washington too. He says out loud all the things a significant minority within the GOP thinks. And let’s be honest. It is a minority. Trump at 24% in the ABC poll is probably his high water mark. But almost a quarter of the Republican voters like him. Mitt Romney could not get above 25% in the polls until January of 2012 and couldn’t stay consistently above 30% until March of 2012.

Outside of the twitterverse, I have yet to meet many voters who are with Trump to the polls. Instead, I hear things like, “He’s the only guy telling it like it is, but I don’t see him as President.” The one person I know well who is going Trump all the way believes both parties have so completely failed and his vote doesn’t matter, that he is willing to go with Trump as a protest vote. In other words, Trump is a symptom of something larger in the minds of some Republican voters. Salena Zito has more on that issue.

Recently, Donald Trump has said several times he might run as a third party. Republicans do not get elected when there is a strong third party. Trump’s third party, like all third parties, would not get the White House, but it could stop the GOP from getting the White House.

The rhetoric and attacks against Trump and his supporters are condescending and sound fearful and resentful. The reality is the condescension and rhetoric is what much of the Washington Republican establishment feels for a great deal of the base, even those who are not on Team Trump right now, but share their concerns. The Establishment has created a situation where a minority of its base, but a minority that could be influential at the polls, wants to burn it all down.

The only solution the GOP really is going to be able to offer is a candidate who is not seen as a hand picked successor to the Washington crowd. That probably hurts a guy like Jeb Bush. But getting the nominee right sets the parameters for a potential Trump third party bid. How those parameters are set decides between a John Anderson third party and a Ross Perot third party. The former is not fatal to a GOP bid. The latter most assuredly is.

The best way for the GOP to get to that point right now is to start talking about the other candidates. It is not just the press focused on Trump right now. The supporters of all the other candidates are talking about him too. The reality is that right now Trump is the only candidate in the GOP who matters because he is the only candidate creating significant buzz. Rick Perry and Jeb Bush are the two candidates who, right now, are working very hard to set themselves up as the anti-Trump for when the flirtation ends.

The supporters of all the candidates would be wise, if they really think the base needs to move on from Trump, to present their candidates as voices of change who will change Washington — not just attack Trump and his supporters. That only makes Trump stronger and his supporters more likely to bolt a GOP many of them already see as just another corrupt Washington institution.


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Wise words.
1 posted on 07/21/2015 8:00:31 PM PDT by iowamark
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To: iowamark

So this guy starts off by saying he has been a Hillary donar, but then neglects to point out that Trump has donated more to Republicans than Democrats, and routinely donates to both parties?

Yeah, I’m going to listen to this guy’s “wise words.” Wasn’t Red State on the Mittens bandwagon last go around?


2 posted on 07/21/2015 8:03:34 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: iowamark

But he is hilarious and a master entertainer.

The MSM cant help themselves reporting on every zinger he launches against anyone critical of him.

Trump’s missile at Gramnesty today was priceless, giving out his cell ##. It was hilarious,

Who else goes after Grahmnesty?? No one.


3 posted on 07/21/2015 8:06:55 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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To: iowamark

Don’t like Trump and won’t vote for him but he is making the only feasible conservative who actually has a chance to win the general (Walker) move rightward on immigration. So thanks Donald! But after the debates I want to see you gone.


4 posted on 07/21/2015 8:07:40 PM PDT by jimwatx
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To: iowamark
1. Trump takes a huge chunk of the votes in the early primaries.

2. The marginal candidates finally wake up, smell the coffee, and get the heck out of the race.

3. Trump, Bush, Cruz, Walker, and maybe Rubio are left.

4. Cruz and/or Walker hang on long enough to either get momentum and win outright, or have enough votes to make a difference in a split convention.

Basically I'm hoping that Trump does more good than harm by kicking the amateurs and hopeless to the curb.

5 posted on 07/21/2015 8:08:11 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

I read it all the way to the end, and Ericson (who I’m not a huge fan of) does make a couple of good points. Like this...

The supporters of all the candidates would be wise, if they really think the base needs to move on from Trump, to present their candidates as voices of change who will change Washington — not just attack Trump and his supporters. That only makes Trump stronger and his supporters more likely to bolt a GOP many of them already see as just another corrupt Washington institution.


Cruz is the only one smart enough to figure this part out.


6 posted on 07/21/2015 8:08:37 PM PDT by Jane Long ("And when thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek")
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To: iowamark

There they go again, selling Trump short. EE has cashed in and not sure where he sits anymore. GOPe, FOX, etc.


7 posted on 07/21/2015 8:08:41 PM PDT by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: iowamark

They don’t care, because Trump is causing problems for a Republican Party that they’ve decided does not care about them.


They don’t care, because Trump is causing problems for a Republican Party that does not care about them. - There...fixed it.


8 posted on 07/21/2015 8:09:32 PM PDT by ripnbang ("An armed man is a citizen, an unarmed man a subject")
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To: iowamark

Trust him as far as we can throw him for now.

But right now he IS doing a yeoman’s job against the media that is desperately needed.
For conservatives and everyone in the nation.


9 posted on 07/21/2015 8:09:41 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: iowamark

Bookmark, absolutely, I was telling someone today that Trump had liberal ideas in the past and they said “No way”.


10 posted on 07/21/2015 8:10:09 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: iowamark

Give it up, Erickson. Voters are going to make up their own minds about Trump and they are tired of know-it-alls like you preaching at them day-after-day.


11 posted on 07/21/2015 8:10:59 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

And, just how is Trump any different than what we now have in office? I agree with you - wise words indeed.


12 posted on 07/21/2015 8:11:00 PM PDT by Catsrus (WWWW)
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To: iowamark

He makes a good argument but not a sound one. Let’ s see..

Off topic, I commend you for posting the entire(?) article unlike some Freepers who make us click on liberal sites. I hate giving click points to libtard websites like WAPO, NYT or LA Slimes and jacking up their view numbers. Give us the summary at the bottom portion...


13 posted on 07/21/2015 8:11:27 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: iowamark

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We know.
He’s not a conservative.
Neither are most of the GOP candidates.
Most of the GOP candidates also want the illegal alien inundation to continue.
Some of us cheering Trump on have every intention of voting for Cruz in the primary but are enjoying wayching the employees of The Cheap Labor Express soil themselves.
Especially Grahamnesty and ¡YEB!


14 posted on 07/21/2015 8:12:48 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: mrsmith

Just put your legs up, sit back and watch the show. I’m just watching him for entertainment purposes. My vote goes to Cruz.


15 posted on 07/21/2015 8:15:28 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: iowamark

Who posted this crap again? This is on free republic this morning or yesterday! If you keep putting it up you might convince someone


16 posted on 07/21/2015 8:18:55 PM PDT by theoldmarine (Saved by grace through Faith)
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To: iowamark

Will the GOP-e secure the borders? No.

Enforce the law regarding illegals? No.

Roll back Iran? No.

Roll back homo marriage? No.

Repeal Obamacare? No.

Roll back abortion? No.

Go to a flat tax and abolish the IRS? No.

Abolish Energy, Labor, Education, Commerce, EPA, etc, and all other unconstitutional depts and agencies? No.

Cut even one blessed thing from the federal behemoth? No.

Restore the tenth amendment? No.

Restore the constitution? No.

Then what the hell good are they?

Go, Trump, GO!!

Go, Cruz, GO!!


17 posted on 07/21/2015 8:19:28 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!)
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To: jsanders2001

I’m for Ted, too.

I can only practically give small amounts of $$$ but my plan is to increase the level of support for Cruz next month and in the late fall and winter increase it even more.

I just hope the chicken fight between Trump and Jeb Bush plucks all their feathers and leaves them both bloodied on the ground.

I won’t be voting for any more RINO GOP nominees again and I don’t care who the running mate is period.


18 posted on 07/21/2015 8:21:25 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER PASTOR NIEMOLLER)
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To: iowamark

Cruz or lose, GOP.


19 posted on 07/21/2015 8:23:42 PM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Basically I'm hoping that Trump does more good than harm

Unfortunately that's wishful thinking, his ego will keep him in till the bitter end even if it means Hillary wins. It's not about the issues it's all about the Donald.

20 posted on 07/21/2015 8:24:27 PM PDT by jimwatx
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