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Donald Trump's immigration stance divides, inflames and inspires
LA Times ^ | July 12, 2015 | Kurtis Lee

Posted on 07/12/2015 5:07:49 AM PDT by Zakeet

For Mark Ulatowski, the opportunity to see Donald Trump — brash, fiery and unapologetic as ever — was well worth the three-hour drive north from his home near the U.S.-Mexico border.

"He speaks to me. He speaks to a lot of us, because he speaks the truth," said Ulatowski, a U.S. Army veteran who made the trek Saturday to see the real estate mogul turned reality television star, and now GOP presidential hopeful, denounce illegal immigration and castigate Democrats and fellow Republicans alike.

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A blunt-spoken hero to fans like Ulatowski, an exasperating blowhard to his many critics, Trump seized the spotlight in the Republican presidential campaign with his inflammatory comments about Mexican immigrants, and for more than two weeks has refused to relinquish center stage despite increasingly frantic pleas from GOP officials.

His denunciations of illegal immigrants and foreign competitors, from China to Mexico, have struck a chord with millions of voters — particularly older, white conservatives, polls indicate — who feel that most politicians have ignored their concerns. Their backing has propelled Trump to the front rank of the splintered GOP field.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Mexico; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: New York; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016election; california; demagogicparty; election2016; embarcadero; franciscosanchez; gop; immigration; kathrynsteinle; kurtislee; losangelesslimes; losangelestimes; memebuilding; mexico; newyork; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; sanfrancisco; texas; trump

While pandering to older, conservative White voters ... Donald coupled fiery rhetoric with over-the-top displays of self-love ... and took on Obama ("You know I don't use teleprompters like the president — I speak from the heart"), Caroline Kennedy, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Jeb Bush, NBC and Univision ... and alienated the minority voters (particularly Latinos) that are necessary to win the presidency!

1 posted on 07/12/2015 5:07:49 AM PDT by Zakeet
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To: Zakeet

No Mr. Lee. What divides us is the unending overwhelming urge Democrats and RINO CoC businesses who want Democrat votes and cheap labor.

What divides us are the total useless criminal refuse Mexico gives us of its own, allows same refuse to pass through its borders south-to-north from points southward. There is an unending legacy of ignorance, criminality, insanity, deviant behavior and diseases we’d once eradicated here.

Add the choking of our schools, ballot boxes, prisons, hospitals, assistance offices and nearly every walk of society and we have a damned pandemic. Deep, wide and pervasive. These people have no business here. They never did and never will.


2 posted on 07/12/2015 5:12:33 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Zakeet
Donald Trump

Born June 14, 1946 in Queens, New York, NY (Jus Soli)

Parents were
Frederick Christ Trump, born October 11, 1905 in Queens, NY, died June 1999 in Queens, NY
Mary Ann MacLeod, born May 10, 1912 in SCOTLAND, died August 7, 2000 in Queens, NY. Arrived in US October 5, 1935. Naturalized as a US Citizen March 10, 1942.

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Jus Sanguinis)

Donald Trump is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

3 posted on 07/12/2015 5:13:26 AM PDT by ASA Vet (My new Zombie Gun - Mossberg 930 SPX w/ Steamlight TLR-2 HL G)
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To: Zakeet
This is from an article I Posted a short time ago.

70% of the people who voted for Obama’s re-election now regret doing so, according to a YouGov poll, and the astounding response Donald Trump is getting suggests that it is not just name recognition and “nativism” in play.
4 posted on 07/12/2015 5:17:58 AM PDT by Din Maker (GOP Gov. Susana Martinez of New Mexico for VP)
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To: Zakeet
Actually, Trump is doing the job of the media by informing the public on immigration.
5 posted on 07/12/2015 5:20:36 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Gaffer

If the Republicans had done what they were sent there to do (kick Obama’s guts in) instead of selling out, Trump wouldn’t have an issue.


6 posted on 07/12/2015 5:25:11 AM PDT by nonliberal (Sent from a payphone in a whorehouse in Mexico.)
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To: nonliberal

That is most certainly true. In 2006 with Bush’s, McCain and the rest of the RINO Senate, they started a new Amnesty push. My two state senators joined in eagerly. And they got bitch slapped back to the stone age very quickly. The immediately changed their tunes (but not their hearts, really). RINOs have been the same ever since Bush 1, for sure. They’re not worth the toilet paper to wipe your butt with.


7 posted on 07/12/2015 5:28:04 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Zakeet

“...and alienated latino voters....”

That’s a lie! He’ll draw LEGAL Latino voters TO him.

But here’s the thing that REALLY has given the ‘rats goose pimples up and down their arms and has the hair standing up on the back of their necks: When Jamiel Shaw, Sr. told about so many liberal friends calling him up to tell him Trump was on TV, and saying they’re going to vote for Trump.

OMG! The democRat slaves are stampeding OFF the plantation!


8 posted on 07/12/2015 5:31:45 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Welcome to America! Now speak English; and keep to the right....In driving, in Faith, and politics.)
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To: Gaffer

It appears that these liberals, socialists and communists are beginning to lose this argument, and are they “PISSED”. Since they don’t have any CIVIL argument for “OPEN BORDERS”, they are going to the streets. When they do that, they have lost the argument. That are immigration laws needs a complete change over, that’s the truth, but declaring “OPEN BORDERS” is surely not the solution.


9 posted on 07/12/2015 5:32:22 AM PDT by gingerbread
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To: gingerbread

Yes, they’re pissed and they know they have no argument.

That’s why you’ll never hear them say “illegal”. Even at this stage, they’ve been counseled to not even say “undocumented”. Instead, they choose the obfuscation tactic of subsuming this “illegal” issue under the larger subset of legal immigrants and Hispanics in general.

It’s where they hide the pitiful illegal alien statistics, it’s where they are able to promote the good things (about legal immigrants and Hispanics), it’s where they bury anything bad about the illegals - all because of Democrat votes and cheap labor.


10 posted on 07/12/2015 5:37:31 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Din Maker
70% of the people who voted for Obama’s re-election now regret doing so...

Considering the stupidity of leftists, that would be a miracle if true. I hope it is, but call me skeptical.

11 posted on 07/12/2015 5:39:42 AM PDT by newfreep ("Evil succeeds when good men do nothting" - Edmund Burke)
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To: Zakeet
"He speaks to me. He speaks to a lot of us, because he speaks the truth,"
And he does it in ENGLISH!
12 posted on 07/12/2015 5:44:22 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Zakeet; All

Donald Trump’s immigration stance divides, inflames and inspires
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Put me in the column “Inspires”. I watched his entire speech in Phoenix yesterday. He spoke for an hour and a half with no teleprompter. Never heard a political speech like that one. I can see a Cruz/Trump or a Trump/Cruz Ticket in 2016.


13 posted on 07/12/2015 6:01:48 AM PDT by Din Maker (GOP Gov. Susana Martinez of New Mexico for VP)
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To: Zakeet

I agree with Trump’s statements, he is saying the right things.

I just saw this article on July 10th of this year, in 2008, Trump was saying this per immigration and this is from National Review:

““He (Romney) had a crazy policy of self deportation which was maniacal,” Trump says. “It sounded as bad as it was, and he lost all of the Latino vote,” Trump notes. “He lost the Asian vote. He lost everybody who is inspired to come into this country.” The GOP has to develop a comprehensive policy “to take care of this incredible problem that we have with respect to immigration, with respect to people wanting to be wonderful productive citizens of this country,” Trump says.”

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/420996/trump-2008-bush-evil-talk-iran-obama-cannot-do-worse-bush-jim-geraghty

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/Donald-Trump-Ronald-Kessler/2012/11/26/id/465363/


14 posted on 07/12/2015 6:04:56 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: BeadCounter
The NRO statement may not necessarily contradict what Trump currently is saying. Also, a lot of people I don't think have been truly familiar with what has been going on in this whole immigration fiasco, the press hasn't reported all of the facts.
15 posted on 07/12/2015 6:12:54 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: Din Maker

If you are seeing a Cruz/Trump ticket, you need to have cataract surgery.

Once your sight is clear again, you’ll see that Trump is no second place guy.


16 posted on 07/12/2015 6:33:25 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (“Don’t worry, we’ll take our country back.” - Donald Trump)
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To: ASA Vet

We still have not gotten the truth about the imposter, funny how this arises with everyone else as if we were satisfied with the a##clowns doctored results


17 posted on 07/12/2015 7:58:55 AM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: Balding_Eagle

Yup. It may be a good idea to keep Cruz in the senate.


18 posted on 07/12/2015 8:30:57 AM PDT by Lopeover (My vote is valuable, you must earn it.)
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