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What's to Stop Insurance rate increases now?
http://freerepublic.com/perl/post_article ^ | June 25,2015 | NLZ

Posted on 06/25/2015 2:07:54 PM PDT by NoLibZone

Will the latest ruling give the Insurance Companies any ability or impetus to raise premiums?


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: vanity; yesvanity

1 posted on 06/25/2015 2:07:54 PM PDT by NoLibZone
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To: NoLibZone

Wait until you’re on single-payer like we are.


2 posted on 06/25/2015 2:11:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: NoLibZone

I predict rates will go up. Just like they always have.


3 posted on 06/25/2015 2:12:26 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: NoLibZone
Now that the Supreme Court has ruled that health insurance consumers can receive federal subsidies regardless of their state’s role in running their insurance market, fewer states may stay in the game.
4 posted on 06/25/2015 2:15:49 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Wolfie

I predict they will go up, but not at all like they always have.


5 posted on 06/25/2015 2:16:33 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Conservatism: Now home to liars too. And we'll support them. Yea... GOPe)
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To: NoLibZone

That’s the whole idea. Price everyone out of the market so they demand single payer. Make all the doctors and nurses employees of fedzilla so the idiot quack can earn the same as a skilled physician.


6 posted on 06/25/2015 2:18:06 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: NoLibZone

Here ‘ya go (link if you want it: http://healthpolicyandmarket.blogspot.com/2015/06/the-king-v-burwell-decision.html):

Does this mean that Obamacare has cleared its last major hurdle?

Not a chance.

Obamacare has only enrolled about 40% of the subsidy eligible market in two years worth of open enrollments. That level of consumer support does not make Obamacare either financially sustainable or politically sustainable. The surveys say the 40% who have enrolled like their plans. Of course they do, they are the poorest with the biggest subsidies and the lowest deductibles. The working and middle-class have most often not signed up for Obamacare because it costs too much and delivers too little.

That Obamacare is not financially sustainable is evidenced by the first wave of big 2016 rate increases by so many large market share insurers. The next wave of rate increases a year from now will also be large and will be in the middle of the 2016 election.

These rate increases will further undermine the political sustainability of the law that has been reflected in five years of polling.


7 posted on 06/25/2015 2:19:15 PM PDT by Qiviut ( One of the most delightful things about a garden is the anticipation it provides. ~W.E. Johns)
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To: NoLibZone

Part of what will constrain premium increases it the medical-loss ratio provision. Basically 85% of premiums must be used for health care costs, only 15% can be used for administration and profit. If the insurance companies charge too much and don’t use it to pay for medical costs, it gets refunded back to the participants.


8 posted on 06/25/2015 2:21:57 PM PDT by ConstantSkeptic (Be careful about preconceptions)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Now that the Supreme Court has ruled that health insurance consumers can receive federal subsidies regardless of their state’s role in running their insurance market, fewer states may stay in the game.

Those states that were stupid enough to spent hundreds of millions of dollars to setup their own "exchange" are going to shut them down so fast it'll make a Washington Bureaucrat's head spin.

Why would any state at this point, continue to incur the expense of running an exchange when the USSC just said the subsidies were available to all states that didn't have an exchange?

This thing may collapse under its own weight yet.

9 posted on 06/25/2015 2:22:04 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ConstantSkeptic

“Part of what will constrain premium increases it the medical-loss ratio provision.”

You’re kidding, right? The insurance company premiums are not what is spinning out of control, yet, those are reactionary. The increases are all across the service providers. Nothing in ocare prevent that. Just look at how hospital stocks rocketed today.


10 posted on 06/25/2015 2:25:57 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: usconservative

“Why would any state at this point, continue to incur the expense of running an exchange...”

I tried to make this point on facebook today when the local tv station posted this ruling. The response I got back was why would a state do that, won’t the people be better served by a state over federal exchange. I said maybe, but an good insurance broker before ocare would have been better still. lol


11 posted on 06/25/2015 2:28:17 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: NoLibZone

The working subsiding the poor and the lazy, the healthy subsidizing the sick, $19 trillion in debt this is a catastrophe in the making.....


12 posted on 06/25/2015 2:29:00 PM PDT by Typical_Whitey (This is the fundamental transformation.)
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To: NoLibZone

Catie bar the door! The SCOTUS has jumped the political shark and we must all fear the outcome.


13 posted on 06/25/2015 2:29:27 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Wolfie
I predict rates will go up, just like they have since Obamacare was enacted.

I dream about the rates doing what they did before then.

14 posted on 06/25/2015 2:31:26 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: ConstantSkeptic
If the insurance companies charge too much and don't use it to pay for medical costs, it gets refunded back to the participants.

The insurance companies never lose and they have the smartest actuaries. With forced insurance and the gov subsidizing people who can't afford it, the rates will go insane.

Think about it. Insurance companies now have an incentive to let the consumer get everything he/she wants. It gives them a reason to raise rates.

15 posted on 06/25/2015 2:31:51 PM PDT by grania
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To: ConstantSkeptic

If the insurance companies charge too much and don’t use it to pay for medical costs, it gets refunded back to the participants.


Wow, 6 years of zerocare atrocities and this is the first time I’ve heard this. How did the RATS keep this great news under wraps for so long?

Do policyholders get credits on their monthly invoices following each month the insurer got > 85% greedy?


16 posted on 06/25/2015 2:41:19 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: NoLibZone

If you want to see how much insurance companies are trying to raise rates for next year go here:

https://ratereview.healthcare.gov

Click on Search ACA-Compliant Products

Select your State

Enter: 01/01/2016 and 12/31/2016


17 posted on 06/25/2015 2:42:02 PM PDT by justlittleoleme
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That site is an eye opener...gawd!


18 posted on 06/25/2015 2:45:02 PM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The state exchanges will all fold up like a cheap suitcase. Of those 13 remaining most are dysfunctional and a drain on state budgets. The US tax payer paid 4.2 billion to set these up. Money down a rat hole.


19 posted on 06/25/2015 2:55:07 PM PDT by Captain Compassion
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