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Why Nikki Haley is smart to want to remove South Carolina’s Confederate flag
WaPo ^ | 6/22/15 | Philip Bump

Posted on 06/22/2015 11:48:57 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson

Edited on 06/22/2015 12:13:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

During a press conference on Monday, Gov. Nikki Haley will ask that the Confederate flag on the grounds of South Carolina's capitol be removed, according to the Post and Courier. The move from the popular governor (reelected last year by 15 points and with 79 percent approval last April) will almost certainly help encourage the state legislature to vote for removal. As it stands, the legislature needs a two-thirds vote to make that happen -- a high bar.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events; US: South Carolina
KEYWORDS: 1stamendment; confederacy; dixie; nikkihaley; southcarolina
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

All that is absolutely true. But my point is that the prominent association between Roof’s horrendous act and the confederate flag is the only thing people will remember. So take the flag away, and if its devotees want to rebuild the brand by associating it with good things, they Should certainly do do.


121 posted on 06/22/2015 2:46:30 PM PDT by livius
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To: central_va

Where did I cave? I want Democrats to own the confederate flag.
I’m tired of the misinformation on that flag, which party put it on the state flag and why that party did it.


122 posted on 06/22/2015 2:58:22 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: CatherineofAragon

lol....funny. Ok I am ok with your post except Justin Bieber and Kardashians....I don’t like them but I don’t bash them especially Bieber......I just don’t like bashing people. I am a married dad of 4 children from 17 to 7....Anniversary 20 years in April 2016.....you made me chuckle too. Have a great one.


123 posted on 06/22/2015 3:01:53 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: conservaKate

You’ve got your tail in a twist over nothing. My POINT was that the Courts have held that the First Amendment ALLOWS anyone to BURN the Strts and Stripes if they wish to. NOW it seems one cannot fly the Confederate flag IF THEY WISH TO so the First Amendment allows the destruction of the U.S. Flag under Free Speech but does not allow the free speech of flying the Confederate flag. GET IT?????


124 posted on 06/22/2015 3:05:11 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: maro

I suppose you are baffled by states rights as well then?


125 posted on 06/22/2015 3:06:10 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

I Agree with you 100%.


126 posted on 06/22/2015 3:07:04 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: MadIsh32

Segregation has nothing to do with it! Educate yourself!


127 posted on 06/22/2015 3:07:50 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: RginTN

The issue a lot of us have with this is not so much whether the flag is appropriate, it’s because Haley waited until the Rats made the demand, then she caved. If she had said months ago that it was time to consider it, then she would have gotten credit for leading. Now, she’s caving. One takes guts, the other lacks it.


128 posted on 06/22/2015 3:08:31 PM PDT by paul544
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To: central_va; flaglady47
"She caved to PC, she is dead to me"

Wow, you certainly have delicate political sensibilities.

Such a victim of the heinous political crime by the Carolina governor you are...and so prone to shoot yourself in the foot in the long run.

I prophesy that you're going to be embarrassed no end when your favorite GOP primary candidate agrees with Mizz Nikki in that it was the canny thing for her to do....but then, since there's no perfect and pure GOP candidate on this mortal coil, you're going to be like Philip Nolan, the legendary "man without a country".

Meaning....if everyone like you demands 100% perfection in a conservative office holder or candidate, we're ALL gonna be without a country.

Leni

129 posted on 06/22/2015 3:12:31 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: VRWCmember

Beautifully and ACCURATELY stated!


130 posted on 06/22/2015 3:14:23 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Sure it does. The flag went up in 1961, not 1861.

Why is that?


131 posted on 06/22/2015 3:15:31 PM PDT by MadIsh32 (In order to be pro-market, sometimes you must be anti-big business)
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To: paul544

You make a good point.


132 posted on 06/22/2015 3:17:37 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: VRWCmember

And what about In God We Trust? Is that going to be eliminated because the Atheists get in a twist?///


133 posted on 06/22/2015 3:18:53 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

It will before long; all it will take is a lawsuit and a sympathetic judge.


134 posted on 06/22/2015 3:22:06 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

I’m a Good Ol’ Rebel https://youtu.be/YAfHigPsC_s


135 posted on 06/22/2015 3:25:35 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: ghost of stonewall jackson

Nikki leaps at a solution which has nothing to do with the problem; but she will win points from the pointy-headed cocktail party crowd.


136 posted on 06/22/2015 3:26:00 PM PDT by windsorknot
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To: rockrr

The reason why so much antipathy for the CBF is because, unlike the United States flag, it represents a movement that fought to preserve and expand slavery at a time with the civilized world was turning away from it.
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WRONG! The south fought to NOT be bankrupted by the north and dictated to in how to live their lives! The Freepers who disparage the Confederaate Battle Flag also scream about Washingtons dictates today. YOU CAN’T have it BOTH WAYS! 10th Amendment Yes, or No???????????????????????????????????///


137 posted on 06/22/2015 3:28:18 PM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mmogamer

Depends on what is meant by that. In a federal system such as ours, the states clearly have rights. But secession is not one of those rights.


138 posted on 06/22/2015 3:30:01 PM PDT by maro (what did the President know and when did he know it?)
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To: Mollypitcher1

no ... no I don’t get it. No one has said that the flag had to come down by law. The feds aren’t taking action ... the Republican Gov is suggesting it be taken down. How in any possible way does this impact the 1st Amendment?

And where does it say that you ... personally .... cannot fly your freak flag anywhere you want? :)


139 posted on 06/22/2015 3:32:25 PM PDT by conservaKate
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To: maro

Then the Fed reigns supreme. You have no rights.


140 posted on 06/22/2015 3:32:26 PM PDT by Mmogamer (I refudiate the lamestream media, leftists and their prevaricutions.)
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