Posted on 06/22/2015 11:48:57 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson
Edited on 06/22/2015 12:13:58 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
That’s all the punny he’ll ever likely have
Porn sites and ma and her four daughters
Pity
Well not really
In the long run best he not reproduce
Rockette to his credit has survived the bolt
Unlike nonsensical
But these south haters have to really step in it repeatedly to get Fresno to kill them permanently
Or catch Thompson in a bad mood....lol
Darling .. he used that word as a slam. Did you have any comment about the word retard being used against Sarah Palin’s child?
No one wins an argument/debate when they resort to name calling.
Don't be so sensitive, snookums. Have you never heard the term "full retard" before? Catch up.
" Did you have any comment about the word retard being used against Sarah Palin’s child?"
This has nothing to do with Sarah Palin or her child. Stop trying to bring cheap (and irrelevant) emotion to the topic.
"No one wins an argument/debate when they resort to name calling."
You weren't called a name.
I'll tell you what's guaranteed to lose an argument, though---accusations of racism. It's very liberal of you.
Bless your heart... you looked back on my posting history .. and were disappointed you didn’t find any racially insensitive posts. Wow ... that sure makes me look bad.
LOL
Roll around in that self-congratulation...cover yourself with it. Is it nice and warm?
> This is why the Confederate flag will come down from the SC statehouse.<
The battle flag was taken down from the SC statehouse over a decade ago.
You’re a little late to the event. That flag currently flies over a war memorial. That memorial does happen to be on state property. The earlier move was in response to a bunch of breast beating and histrionics by leftists about how something just had to be done about that awful flag. So, something was done. The leftists were mollified for a short time, we now see.
I see this as a freedom of expression problem. Your reality is totally different from many who fly this particular flag. The flag has meaning for many people. If you do not like the flag, by all means don’t fly it or own it. Your opinion does not trump the opinion of others. It most certainly does not neutralize their rights of freedom of expression.
The South Carolina legislature will ultimately decide what happens to this flag, not the Governor. It’s my understanding that the flag may be removed from the war memorial only by a 2/3rds majority vote to do so. I think Governor Haley has a long road to getting such a large majority to follow her against their constituents’ wishes.
“Why Nikki Haley is smart to want to remove South Carolina’s Confederate flag”
Let me guess... because she wants to see if she can demolish the Republican “southern strategy” that dates back to Nixon?
Well done, Nimrata Nikki Randhawa.
Then don’t buy one.
“Who here still supports segregation? That is why this flag went up in the first place”
The flag went up to mark the Centennial of the Civil War, but feel free to keep repeating the Left’s revisionist history.
“The first time it flew
Daniel Hollis, a member of the commission responsible for planning South Carolina’s Confederate War Centennial, recalled the exact day the flag was first hoisted during an interview published in 1999.
Hollis said the flag itself went up on April 11, 1961, for the opening of the Civil War centennial “at the request of Aiken Rep. John A. May.”
“May told us he was going to introduce a resolution to fly the flag for a year from the capitol. I was against the flag going up,” Hollis said, “but I kept quiet and went along.”
The resolution was approved in 1962, but never included a date for the flag’s removal.
“It just stayed up,” Hollis said. “Nobody raised a question.”
Hollis died in 2008.”
I am not a Southerner. My experience has been that many of the people who fly the flag or use the flag as a symbol are at least a little racist. Not all, but enough to make me uncomfortable. South Carolina can do what it wants. But major employers are watching. No big company wants to deal with the Confederate flag issue.
I just now happened across this personal attack of you at post #43. Your response was much better than mine.
... the large majority of Americans of Lincoln's day believed that the two races could not dwell together on the basis of social and political equality.
Lincoln had been an advocate of colonization of blacks in Liberia since the 1840s [Link]. He had also been one of the managers of the Illinois State Colonization Society in the 1850s [Link]. Colonization of blacks out of the country seems to have been a long held belief with him.
Some historians and some on these threads have argued that by 1863 Lincoln gave up his intent to move large numbers of blacks out of the country given that he apparently did not believe they and whites could live successfully together. But, in fact, Lincoln kept investigating possibilities for colonization of blacks elsewhere.
Lincoln sent General Dan Sickles to Colombia in 1865 to discuss black colonization there. Here, from the Dayton Daily Empire Newspaper of June 2, 1865 is the following mention of Sickles, Lincoln and the mission to Colombia [Source].
The Negroes of the U.S. To Be Sent To Bogota
It is understood that the mission of General Sickles to Bogota was for the purpose of obtaining grants of lands for the purpose of settling them with blacks from the United States, and that the late President who authorized the mission, was willing to give fifteen millions of dollars for adequate territory.
That is consistent with the finding that Lincoln kept pushing the colonization idea well after the emancipation proclamation [Link].
Frederick Douglass, the author of the quote in your previous post, disagreed strongly with Lincoln over colonization. Here is Douglass on colonization in 1849: [Link].
Some say that in 1865 Douglass had convinced Lincoln not to push colonization. Maybe, maybe not. In addition to the 1865 mission of General Sickles above, Lincoln was still discussing colonization with Benjamin Butler in April 1865 [Link].
I have brought up before on these threads that when Lincoln was a Congressman in the 1840s, he included in his bill to free Washington DC's slaves a section that was basically a fugitive slave law designed to let slave owners recover slaves that escaped into DC. That doesn't fit the popular view of Lincoln, but it did reflect the realities of the time as far as political compromise went. However, his bill did not get much support, and it died.
Very shortly after he became president, a Fugitive Slave Commissioner friend of his in Springfield, Illinois provided a Missouri slave holder with the authority to collect his escaped slaves in Chicago, which was then a long-time refuge for fugitive slaves. I have always felt that Lincoln might have prodded his friend to do that since it would indicate to the South that Lincoln would enforce the Fugitive Slave Law even in northern sanctuary cities. As a consequence of the Missouri man recovering his slaves in Chicago, many hundreds of fugitive slaves immediately left Chicago for Canada in early April 1861. They had gotten the message.
Thank you, FRiend.
State governments should be able to fly any flag they want on their property.
I was talking about federal buildings. On state buildings I agree with you. And SC decided to not fly the confederate flag on the state house.
So I suppose you are ok with the Rainbow flag being projected onto the facade of the White house? That’s federal property, correct? Direct me to your post where you objected do that.
No I am not Ok with any gay agenda.
But what dudnderheads do not understand is that if illegals and more legal immigrants are allowed in the country, the social conservative agenda will be screwed for 100 years or more. All those immigrants vote 80% for LIBERAL democrats.
Do you think scial conservatives will benefit with Hillary/Sanders/whoever?
Some people just can’t think long term.
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