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Horne v. Department of Agriculture struck down!
SCOTUS Blog ^ | 22 Jun 2015 | SCOTUS Blog

Posted on 06/22/2015 7:19:28 AM PDT by oblomov

Horne v. Department of Agriculture.decision is a big win for those of us who try to make a living in Ag

Any net proceeds the raisin growers receive from the sale of the reserve raisins goes to the amount of compensation they have received for that taking. It does not mean that the raisins have not been appropriated for government use, nor can the government make raisin growers relinquish their property without just compensation as a condition for selling in interstate commerce.

This is a major blow to government's program of trying to boost prices by keeping crops off the market.

It is 5-4 as to at least some parts. Breyer, Ginsburg and Kagan partly concur, partly dissent. Sotomayor dissents in full.

(Excerpt) Read more at scotusblog.com ...


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A win for liberty...a precedent going back to the New Deal has been stuck down.
1 posted on 06/22/2015 7:19:28 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Okay, how does this affect peanuts, corn, soy beans, etc?.........................


2 posted on 06/22/2015 7:21:36 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

In short, for a “reserve” program in which the government requires crops not be put on the market, the reserve is to be treated as a taking and the farmer is entitled to just compensation.


3 posted on 06/22/2015 7:23:54 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: oblomov

Horne was brought by a family of raisin farmers, who object to being required to participate in a government program that obligated them to set aside a portion of their crop and not sell it on the market, to keep crop prices up. The basic question before the Court was whether, in its efforts to manage supply and demand to raise the prices of raisins the government was “taking” the farmers’ property from them, triggering a constitutional duty to pay compensation.

Eight Justices today (everybody except Justice Sotomayor) held that the answer is “yes.” - See more at:

http://live.scotusblog.com/Event/Live_blog_of_orders_and_opinions__June_22_2015#sthash.bfkwtgdL.dpuf


4 posted on 06/22/2015 7:24:37 AM PDT by fision
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nor can the government make raisin growers relinquish their property without just compensation as a condition for selling in interstate commerce.

That is, until Executive Order 13603 gets invoked by the White Hut...

5 posted on 06/22/2015 7:25:01 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: fision

No opinion on ACA today


6 posted on 06/22/2015 7:26:05 AM PDT by fision
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To: oblomov

No it is a win for big raisin!/s


7 posted on 06/22/2015 7:28:38 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: oblomov

who decides what is ‘just compensation’?........................


8 posted on 06/22/2015 7:28:41 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: oblomov

Is Sotomayor applying LAW or POLITICS to the formation of her decisions? If the latter, is that breaking the terms (oath) of service? Or then again, is she just ignorant of the law?


9 posted on 06/22/2015 7:29:19 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: mad_as_he$$

10 posted on 06/22/2015 7:29:28 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

In the case of a widely marketed crop, it would be easy to determine. It’s simply the market price.


11 posted on 06/22/2015 7:30:32 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: fision

Horne could massively upend a variety of price-support programs that happen to be organized by requiring growers to give up part of their crop. It seems like an esoteric opinion about raisins that is pro-farmer; the result could be very much pro-consumer (and anti-farmer) if the government is right that the programs actually benefit growers (an argument the majority refused to entertain). - See more at:
http://live.scotusblog.com/Event/Live_blog_of_orders_and_opinions__June_22_2015#sthash.bfkwtgdL.dpuf


12 posted on 06/22/2015 7:32:00 AM PDT by fision
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To: I am Richard Brandon

Sotomayor’s decisions on cases takes into account several factors, such as which side of the bed she woke up on, and how much flatulence she passed while in conference.


13 posted on 06/22/2015 7:33:36 AM PDT by oblomov
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To: mad_as_he$$

This much bigger than raisins - it includes all agricultural products and could mean lover grocery prices at the store! It could include dairy and meat also! It all depends ...


14 posted on 06/22/2015 7:36:43 AM PDT by fision
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A win for liberty...

Praying for this trend to grow with the other big SCOTUS decisions this week ...

15 posted on 06/22/2015 7:38:15 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: I am Richard Brandon

she can’t be ignurant of the law. she is a wise latino. says so herself.


16 posted on 06/22/2015 7:39:29 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: oblomov

The bureaucrats are REALLY going to go after raisin farmers with a vengeance now.


17 posted on 06/22/2015 7:41:35 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: oblomov

Yes. My grandfather’s small farming enterprise got shut down in Mississippi. My mom told me that’s when he started drinking.


18 posted on 06/22/2015 7:43:22 AM PDT by magna carta
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To: fision

True, it seemingly applies to any crop that the government restricts from the market, which has the effect of increasing prices.

However I’m guessing that the government just increases subsidies by paying the additional amount required for a taking. Because while low prices are good for consumers, they’re generally bad for suppliers and result in reduced revenue. Which will put some farmers out of business.

So in reality while we may see a decrease in prices at the grocery store, those lower prices will be counteracted through either higher taxes or additional deficit spending.


19 posted on 06/22/2015 7:47:09 AM PDT by tanknetter
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But the ‘market price’ is determined by how much of the crop is on the market. If the government buys the crop and then pays the farmer what the market price is, then they have to do something with the crop they bought. Sell it and depress the prices or destroy it and raise the prices?..........................


20 posted on 06/22/2015 7:58:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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