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Inside Twin Peaks: New Details Update Timeline of Deadly Waco Biker Brawl
ABC News ^ | May 21, 2015 | Olivia Smith

Posted on 06/17/2015 9:56:59 AM PDT by Prolixus

...At 12:24 p.m. Sunday, according to the AP, the first shots are fired and the video reportedly shows bikers, patrons and staff fleeing, running inside the restaurant. Some run into the bathroom and others go to the kitchen. At least three people reportedly were seen on the video with handguns.

The video doesn’t show the parking lot where much of the violence occurred, the AP reported. The restaurant has said the fight began outside.

Two minutes after the shooting starts, the footage shows police entering the restaurant with assault rifles...

(Excerpt) Read more at abcnews.go.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: texas; waco; wacobikers
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To: TexasGator
You are ignoring the big BEAVER in the pond....

The FACT that hundreds of people were detained, arrested and charged.

Many, most NOT QUILTY of anything...

Then having $MILLION dollar bonds placed on them...blanket like.

Of course...you have no problem with this.

You are what you are...........

101 posted on 06/17/2015 9:10:30 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: semimojo

I think that they are lying.


102 posted on 06/17/2015 9:20:19 PM PDT by sport
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To: Osage Orange

He has to be somewhere. No one else will have him. Free Republic is stuck with him. With all the other jackboot lickers on here, one more won’t be noticed that much.


103 posted on 06/17/2015 9:23:21 PM PDT by sport
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To: sport

He is a she....fwiw-


104 posted on 06/17/2015 9:42:31 PM PDT by Osage Orange (I have strong feelings about gun control. If there's a gun around, I want to be controlling it.)
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To: Osage Orange

She same thing applies and what is one more train pulling groupie?


105 posted on 06/17/2015 9:44:49 PM PDT by sport
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To: Osage Orange

I forgot to say it in 104, but thanks for the info.


106 posted on 06/17/2015 9:45:47 PM PDT by sport
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To: Osage Orange

Funny, I had suspected as much.


107 posted on 06/17/2015 10:52:41 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: sport
He has to be somewhere.

I think "he" may be a "she." (Called me "dear")

108 posted on 06/18/2015 3:58:09 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: sport
I think that they are lying.

OK, but realize how big your conspiracy just got.

You've got to corral the management and worker bees at both the ATF (ballistics) and FBI (video analysis), and probably the docs/medical personnel doing the autopsy work at the Southwest Institute of Forensic Sciences.

If this was really a planned op don't you think they would have tried to contain the number of people that had to be in on it?

109 posted on 06/18/2015 4:03:27 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: Osage Orange
So you semimojo think statements made by politicians city, state and federal groups are totally rightous???

I'm skeptical of many official statements but I'm more skeptical of these same officials being able to plan, organize and maintain large conspiracies.

In this case including the management and employees of the Waco PD, ATF, FBI and the Southwest Institute of Forensic Sciences.

110 posted on 06/18/2015 4:09:19 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo
Your post made me reconsider. They had the police chief doing the talking, not the Butcher of Mount Carmel. But if the Waco Police only fired four shots, that means that the other Police Agencies did the rest of the shooting.

If the main shooting and fight had been between motorcycle club members, as I was initially led to believe, the video of it would have immediately been released. Even one of the police shooting.

111 posted on 06/18/2015 4:40:30 AM PDT by sport
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To: semimojo; Travis McGee
I don't speculate much (you can check my history). When I do, I try to go with Occam.

For me, a key piece is Chief's statement that HIS Officers were sitting in their vehicles when the trouble broke out.

We do not know the exact nature of that trouble. Police say they were fired on. Were they still in their vehicles? (Chief needs to explain how this is best practice for a situation in which they had intel that trouble was likely at that place at that time).

Where was this guy when the trouble commenced?


112 posted on 06/18/2015 4:50:33 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o; Travis McGee
For me, a key piece is Chief's statement that HIS Officers were sitting in their vehicles when the trouble broke out.

We do not know the exact nature of that trouble. Police say they were fired on. Were they still in their vehicles? (Chief needs to explain how this is best practice for a situation in which they had intel that trouble was likely at that place at that time).

Yeah, I agree there's a lot we don't know and I'm hoping the FBI analysis of the video will answer some questions.

One question about boot guy. If his pant legs are messed up because he went for his gun why are both of them screwed up? Did he forget where he kept his weapon?

113 posted on 06/18/2015 5:19:14 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: sport
But if the Waco Police only fired four shots, that means that the other Police Agencies did the rest of the shooting

The Waco Trib and the KWBU both reported that Chief Stroman said in his press conference that no other LE agencies (other than Waco PD) fired shots.

The Houston Chronicle also quoted a Texas DPS spokesman saying that no DPS officers fired.

114 posted on 06/18/2015 5:28:17 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Isn’t it obvious that Boot Guy is undercover? Would they “burn” him by having him on the firing line? Or was he inside when trouble jumped off?


115 posted on 06/18/2015 6:19:32 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o
Isn’t it obvious that Boot Guy is undercover? Would they “burn” him by having him on the firing line? Or was he inside when trouble jumped off?

Seems plausible that he was undercover but we don't know. When was this photo taken? Is it possible that he wasn't there when the action went down but arrived as backup?

Again, why are both pant legs messed up?

116 posted on 06/18/2015 6:42:00 AM PDT by semimojo
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To: semimojo

Burning an undercover as backup would be a pretty dumb move. But, I can accept it as a possibility. As to source / timeline - I do not know. I can search and see if I can find the original.


117 posted on 06/18/2015 6:48:15 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: semimojo

Law enforcement officers talk to a man near the parking lot of a Twin Peaks Restaurant Sunday, May 17, 2015, in Waco, Texas, after a shooting involving rival biker gangs. (Rod Aydelotte/Waco Tribune Herald via AP)

http://www.myfoxmemphis.com/story/29092318/photos-biker-gang-shootout-in-texas


118 posted on 06/18/2015 6:52:58 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: don-o
Burning an undercover as backup would be a pretty dumb move. But, I can accept it as a possibility. As to source / timeline - I do not know. I can search and see if I can find the original.

One other question I have about the "cop in the bathroom" scenario is why, after all the shooting was over and the scene was controlled, would the cop go armor-up and grab a rifle?

119 posted on 06/18/2015 7:00:35 AM PDT by semimojo
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