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U.S. Army Raising “Concerns” Over CMP Transfers
FPC Blog ^ | May 24, 2015 | Evan Gillespie

Posted on 05/24/2015 12:41:01 PM PDT by OK Sun

U.S. Representative Mike Rogers (R-Alabama) made headlines recently when he introduced an amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act of 2015 (H.R. 1735). The amendment allows for the transfer of surplus 1911A1 handguns to the Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) for sale to the general public.

Last week, in response, the U.S. army released a white paper voicing “concern” over this amendment and claimed that there would be “potential negative impacts on public safety from the large amount of semi-automatic and concealable pistols that will be released for public purchase.” These concerns included the traceability of the firearms after sale, and the applicability of the Gun Control Act of 1968.

Public safety concerns revolved around the fact that there is “no statutory requirement or record keeping obligation for CMP,” which could make it difficult for federal agencies to track some firearm transfers, once they are completed.

As John Richardson of No Lawyers – Only Guns and Money notes, though, the Civilian Marksmanship Program has stringent standards that must be met by an individual before they can acquire a firearm from this program. These firearms are not released to any person who inquires – they must be non-prohibited persons and meet CMP’s eligibility requirements. . . .

(Excerpt) Read more at firearmspolicy.org ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; alabama; army; banglist; cmp; guncontrol; marksmanship; mikerogers; secondamendment
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To: OK Sun
These 1911 pistols, same as the M1 Garands and Carbines were paid for with the tax money taken from citizens. When the military has surplus, they should be made available to citizens who are qualified and desire them.

Arms are tools, same as a hammer, saw, knife, fork tablesaw, etc. How would you ever enjoy a good steak without a knife? I don't care what tools you choose to own. However, I do care if you choose to use them to infringe on my inalienable rights to life...

It is the usual chicken shit “White Paper” which has NO authors willing to sign their name(s). However, it appears that a significant portion is based on the input of the anti-freedom and anti gun E. Holder staffed DOJ based on the content:

"...Concerns: The Army and DOJ have concerns with this amendment and believe additional study is necessary. Specifically,... DOJ has informally conveyed to the Army that it opposes the amendment..." Perhaps someday the US Federal Government will realize and act upon the fact (as have the Swiss and Israeli) that the best national defense and crime deterrent are well armed and trained citizens who know right from wrong.

21 posted on 05/24/2015 1:16:56 PM PDT by CitizenBob
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To: OK Sun

These same guns are already available, and easier to get than in the CMP so the Army’s “concerns” are a moot point


22 posted on 05/24/2015 1:22:46 PM PDT by Domandred (Tea Party or Third Party. Done with the capitulating eGOP.)
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To: OK Sun

The Obamadroids don’t want US civilians owning the weapons we paid for.

They would rather give them to ISIS.


23 posted on 05/24/2015 1:23:42 PM PDT by Iron Munro (We may be paranoid but that doesn't mean they aren't really after us)
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To: OK Sun

Probably shot to heck, but a fun piece to have, for sure.

Who wrote the paper? Some Obama butt-kisser looking for a promotion, I’d guess.


24 posted on 05/24/2015 1:27:43 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: OK Sun
"Last week, in response, the U.S. army released..."

Who in the Army? What office in particular? Few people will read the "white paper" to find out. I'm not demanding that the poster answer but am saying that the writer committed an error in not being more specific.


25 posted on 05/24/2015 1:30:35 PM PDT by familyop (Avoid buying anything that you don't really need. Become more self-sufficient.)
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To: OK Sun; Bender2; NFHale; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; GOPsterinMA; ...
Last week, in response, the U.S. army released a white paper voicing “concern” over this amendment and claimed that there would be “potential negative impacts on public safety from the large amount of semi-automatic and concealable pistols that will be released for public purchase.”

Sounds more like a RED paper. The next POTUS needs to flush the liberal Obama trash out of the US military.

26 posted on 05/24/2015 1:30:36 PM PDT by Impy (They pull a knife, you pull a gun. That's the CHICAGO WAY, and that's how you beat the rats!)
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To: Texas Fossil

Since when has a military issue 1911 been considered concealable?


27 posted on 05/24/2015 1:30:52 PM PDT by Woodman
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To: Texas Fossil

“They are afraid of US.”

They freakin’ better well be!

But then I remember...Ruby Ridge...The Branch Davidians @ Waco, Tx...and a dozen other examples of what they’ve gotten away with through the years.

Grrrrrrr!


28 posted on 05/24/2015 1:31:44 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: OK Sun

In the distant past, surplus firearms were considered PUBLIC PROPERTY as the taxpayers paid for them. The firearms were then sold to the highest bidder when no longer needed by the government.


29 posted on 05/24/2015 1:33:13 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Bryanw92

I acquired a Norinco M of 1911A1 in 1992 & liked it so much I bought two more before the Clinton import ban in 1994. Each cost $250.

Replaced the grips, hammers & mainspring housings with G.I. parts. Tight & shoot like a dream. I remember issue M1911A1s as a tanker in the 1970’s; they were pretty loosey-goosie.

Any 1911 pattern is expensive these days. Must mean it’s a classic design. Nothing yet on CMP website about 1911s. That Army idiot sounds more like Charlie Schumer than any kind of officer.


30 posted on 05/24/2015 1:33:51 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("The Second Amendment is more important than Islam.")
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To: OK Sun
Is this the same Army that has provided Islamic jihadists with Billions of Dollars worth of armaments, ordnance, vehicles, and state of the art military supplies of all sorts?
31 posted on 05/24/2015 1:34:21 PM PDT by Radix ("..Democrats are holding a meeting today to decide whether to overturn the results of the election.")
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To: OK Sun
"...semi-automatic and concealable pistols..."

A 1911A1 is readily concealable in a Speedo if you are Enzyte Bob.


32 posted on 05/24/2015 1:36:03 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: elcid1970

>>Any 1911 pattern is expensive these days.

Not anymore. Everyone makes one now. The Taurus is the best of the bunch and costs under $600.


33 posted on 05/24/2015 1:37:28 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: OK Sun

Wouldn’t he more at home in Pol Pot’s or Mao’s army?


34 posted on 05/24/2015 1:37:57 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: jsanders2001
Better than leaving them out sitting in the desert waiting ta to be found By ISIS members

At least there's a chance that it will break when the Iraqi soldier drops it and runs.

35 posted on 05/24/2015 1:39:24 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Darth Obama on 529 plans: I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further.)
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To: BobL

I have read some of the liberal complaints from the Internet, and; as usual the lefties who are doing the damn bitching have not read the eligibility requirements that also include-AN FBI background check NCIS! Now it is the Obama admin that is against this. The BS about gang bangers getting guns is BS unless they can walk into a firearms store and pass an FBI NCIS.


36 posted on 05/24/2015 1:40:37 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: OK Sun

There’s no letterhead or other evidence of the source. I doubt the honesty of the author’s allegation against the Army. We’ve been seeing more defamations against our defense and veterans over the past year or two from political socialists posing as conservatives.


37 posted on 05/24/2015 1:41:23 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Terry L Smith

This clown of an officer has not read that most approved groups are Vets like the DAV, MOPH, AL, etc.


38 posted on 05/24/2015 1:42:08 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: OK Sun

Has the CMP become an American version of the Soviet Communist Mindset People?


39 posted on 05/24/2015 1:46:57 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Bryanw92

Hahaha... 1911 was crew weapon for tankers, along with grease guns. I remember having to qualify with random issue from armory. The barrel rattled around in the slide. It would have been more accurate as a thrown heavy object. Somehow I qualified expert. I own a S&W M&P Compact now. Sweet.


40 posted on 05/24/2015 1:49:16 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost ("Just look at the flowers, Lizzie. Just look at the flowers.")
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