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(Defense Secretary Ash) Carter: Iraqis showed 'no will' in Ramadi
WCVB.com/CNN ^ | May 24, 2015 | Barbara Star

Posted on 05/24/2015 11:02:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

WASHINGTON (CNN) —Defense Secretary Ash Carter, in his first comments since the key town of Ramadi fell to ISIS, blamed the weak state of Iraq's military as one major reason for the city's fall, in an exclusive interview on CNN's "State of the Union" aired Sunday.

"What apparently happened was that the Iraqi forces just showed no will to fight," Carter told CNN's Barbara Starr. "They were not outnumbered. In fact, they vastly outnumbered the opposing force, and yet they failed to fight, they withdrew from the site, and that says to me, and I think to most of us, that we have an issue with the will of the Iraqis to fight ISIL and defend themselves."

Carter's remarks are the strongest yet from any Obama administration official speaking on the record since the last week's events when Ramadi fell. The U.S. has sped up the shipment of some arms to help boost Iraqi forces as ISIS has recently taken more territory, but the U.S. defense chief said Iraq's military needs to step up.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; isis; ramadi
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To: Paladin2

I “hear” that the soldiers had not been paid in months, and even had to buy their own bullets. When they ran out - they threw down their weapons and left. Any one else hearing this?


21 posted on 05/24/2015 11:56:24 AM PDT by impactplayer
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Defense Secretary Ash Carter, in his first comments since the key town of Ramadi fell...

I knew the Iraqi soldiers were spineless turds, but what surprises me is the fact that this guy Carter would actually say what he has said.

Most Merciless Leader His Highness Obama-ram-lama-ding-dong will be not be pleased.

One of his sycophants has the temerity to go against what he, hisself, the oNe, has decreed.

22 posted on 05/24/2015 12:08:12 PM PDT by OldSmaj (obama is a worthless mohametan. Impeach his ass now!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Wow, just wait until Obozo takes him to the wood shed for not spouting the party line.
23 posted on 05/24/2015 12:12:38 PM PDT by mongo141 (Revolution ver. 2.0, just a matter of when, not a matter of if!)
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To: bigmak007
But I can’t dismiss it was a staged weapons dump, again.

It sure seems that way. Particularly since the ISIS guys had a parade a few days later and nobody bothered to attack it from the air. Certainly US satellite and air based surveillance can detect a parade forming. And destroying the victory parade would have instantly reversed the propaganda value of taking the town.

It is also hard to believe nobody wanted to fight, but many people got executed after the city fell. Does anybody believe they were just too lazy to fight, knowing the fate that awaited them?

24 posted on 05/24/2015 12:44:58 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
As is typical throughout the Arab world, there is a lot of bluster and foaming at the mouth frenzy, but goat-humping surrender monkeys they be.

And if ISIS ever encounters a modern national Army, they will lose quickly and decisively.

25 posted on 05/24/2015 12:48:57 PM PDT by Mariner
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

For 10 years or however long we have been “training” the Iraqis, I have wondered: WHY we can take a 17-18 year old American boy and make him a Marine in 12-16 weeks but we can “train” these Iraqi men for literally years and they turn tail and run at the first sign of combat????


26 posted on 05/24/2015 12:48:57 PM PDT by klb99 (I now understand why the South seceeded)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This from the guy who named a faggot as his Chief of Staff.

The Iraqis are just there for the free weapons and cash.

The minute it hits the fan they run for the hills, they know they cant depend on any real support from the evil faggots and criminals running the US government.

Its a scam.


27 posted on 05/24/2015 12:48:58 PM PDT by Rome2000 (SMASH THE CPUSA)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Hey Ash, have any of your high-powered planners suggested that perhaps the Iraqis did not consider Ramadi as important as you do?


28 posted on 05/24/2015 12:55:09 PM PDT by upchuck (The current Federal Government is what the Founding Fathers tried to prevent. WAKE UP!! Amendment V)
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To: bigmak007

I wouldn’t be surprised that it’d be a staged weapons dump.


29 posted on 05/24/2015 1:19:23 PM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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To: dfwgator

“Who are you referring to, the Iraqi soldiers, or our government?”

Iraqis.


30 posted on 05/24/2015 1:20:30 PM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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To: klb99

“WHY we can take a 17-18 year old American boy and make him a Marine in 12-16 weeks but we can “train” these Iraqi men for literally years and they turn tail and run at the first sign of combat????”

I’ll say it.. and I don’t give two sh*ts whether anyone thinks it’s “racist”... muslim arabs are a low grade of creature.


31 posted on 05/24/2015 1:25:28 PM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

Ash Carter could not tell you what an infantry squad is supposed to do. This Harvard prof was born in 54 and while he is educated he has never done anything except work for the Gov and universities.


32 posted on 05/24/2015 2:05:47 PM PDT by Lumper20 ( clown in Chief has own Gov employees Gestapo)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

great...they don’t want to fight so lets send them more arms that ISIS will capture.


33 posted on 05/24/2015 3:08:38 PM PDT by stylin19a (obama = Eddie Mush)
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To: kingu
>>>The Americans will come save the day. Why fight?

That's exactly right. If they get their collective butts handed to them enough they know we'll step in and save the day...so why lay it all on the line now?

34 posted on 05/24/2015 3:15:32 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Arabs only fight hard when they are promised 9-year-old sex slaves as winner trophies. Something Mohammed understood well.


35 posted on 05/24/2015 3:27:14 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

He needs to check with Maria at the State Department


36 posted on 05/24/2015 3:34:01 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Lurker

Somehow you got to say most of those rifles were purchased and given to them by US.


37 posted on 05/24/2015 3:39:40 PM PDT by mcshot (I pray someone comes forth with the strength, fortitude and burning desire to save our Republic)
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To: ScottinVA

There were pictures a couple months ago showing over a hundred shipping containers reportedly full of arms and ammunition. And they were not being guarded.


38 posted on 05/24/2015 3:45:20 PM PDT by mcshot (I pray someone comes forth with the strength, fortitude and burning desire to save our Republic)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
A few years ago, with our backing (and vetting of officers), the Iraqi Army fought well. And that is what shocked me about the sudden success of ISIS. But then I learned that the Prime Minister purged competent officers who weren't his cronies.

All the weapons we can donate won't be worth anything if the Iraqi security forces lack the will to fight.

I fear that Iraq may now be hopelessly broken.

We can't even resort to throwing 2 or 3 of our own combat divisions into that mess. Besides being political poison here, the troops might get attacked by the Shiite militias in thrall to Iran. And I have even begun to fear that we simply don't have enough combat ready brigades available to create and sustain a corps-sized expeditionary force.

I just want to dope-slap every Liberal who said that Obama would better our relations with the Arab world.

39 posted on 05/24/2015 4:33:24 PM PDT by Lysandru
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To: klb99
For 10 years or however long we have been “training” the Iraqis, I have wondered: WHY we can take a 17-18 year old American boy and make him a Marine in 12-16 weeks but we can “train” these Iraqi men for literally years and they turn tail and run at the first sign of combat????

Because Americans have something to fight and live for. Camel humpers, not so much.
40 posted on 05/24/2015 5:06:12 PM PDT by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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