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Harvard's Asian-American Quota
Townhall.com ^ | May 24, 2015 | Steve Chapman

Posted on 05/24/2015 7:41:44 AM PDT by Kaslin

Asian-Americans are one of the nation's most astonishing success stories. In 1960, they accounted for less than 1 percent of the U.S. population but had a rich history of persecution -- from the Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 to the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II. Back then, no one could have imagined what lay ahead.

Today, nearly 5 percent of Americans have Asian ancestry, tracing to countries from India to Japan. The Pew Research Center reports that they are "the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States."

They are overrepresented in fields like medicine, engineering and computer science. In Silicon Valley, they hold half of the tech jobs. For immigrants once associated with menial or subservient work, the transformation has been titanic.

But some things have stayed the same -- such as the representation of Asian-Americans at Harvard, the nation's oldest and most prestigious university. In 1992, they made up 19.1 percent of the undergraduate student body. In 2013, they made up 18 percent.

During the same period, the share of Asian-Americans in the U.S. population rose sharply, and their share in the Harvard applicant pool doubled. About 30 percent of those admitted, by comparison, are "legacies" -- students whose notable virtue is carrying the DNA of Harvard grads.

When I arrived in Cambridge for my freshman year in 1972, having grown up in Texas, I had never met an Asian-American. That night, I was sharing a bedroom with one -- my roommate, the son of Chinese immigrants, who grew up near Seattle. To me, the relative abundance of Asian-Americans on campus was a surprise.

In the wake of the civil rights movement, this group was thought to contribute to the diverse, cosmopolitan experience the university wanted for its undergraduates. But in the decades since, they apparently have come to be seen more as an obstacle to diversity.

In the interest of full disclosure, I should mention that as an alumnus, I interviewed a few applicants in the past year on behalf of the admissions office, the first time I've done it. This gives me no special insight on the matter.

Today, according to a survey by The Harvard Crimson, Asian-American freshmen had higher SAT scores than any other ethnic group. It's not enough for them to be as good as everyone else: To get in, they have to be considerably better.

The problem seems to be that, in the absence of measures to limit their representation, there would just be too many Asian-Americans. So, from all outward appearances, Harvard has a quota to prevent that unwanted result.

Not all elite universities follow suit. At Caltech, reported Ron Unz in The American Conservative magazine, Asian-Americans are now nearly 40 percent of the student body. Likewise at the University of California, Berkeley, where racial preferences are against state law. At MIT, the figure is 30 percent.

When Harvard President Drew Gilpin Faust met with the editorial board of The Chicago Tribune this month, she refused to discuss the topic, on the ground that the university is being sued. It is, by two groups arguing that the school has violated the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

_But a bank of verbal fog from her chief counsel stresses Harvard's "holistic admissions process," aimed at "the goal of creating a vibrant academic community that exposes students to a wide range of differences: background, ideas, experiences, talents and aspirations."

That statement conjures the familiar stereotype of Asian-American students as narrow, grade-obsessed nerds. In fact, they and their parents have figured out the obvious: If you want to get into an elite school, you'd better have not only excellent grades and SAT scores, but impressive extracurricular achievements.

Rest assured, "well-rounded Asian-American student" is no longer an oxymoron -- if it ever was. My roommate, a varsity fencer, was well-rounded enough to win a Rhodes Scholarship.

As the complaint filed by the Coalition of Asian-American Associations noted, a study of UCLA applicants found "no correlation between race and 'personal achievement.'" There is no reason to think these youngsters are any narrower or nerdier than the typical Ivy League aspirant.

Harvard can insist that its stable of admissions wizards has devised a secret formula to yield the ideal student body, and that the stable Asian-American share is just a meaningless oddity. But as Bill Clinton used to say, if you find a turtle on a fence post, you can be sure it didn't get there by accident.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; US: California; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; asianamericans; california; demagogicparty; harvard; massachusetts; prop209; proposition209; quotas; racenorming
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1 posted on 05/24/2015 7:41:44 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
For immigrants once associated with menial or subservient work, the transformation has been titanic.

Dunno, a great number of those asians in silicon valley are H1Bs.

2 posted on 05/24/2015 7:44:38 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Kaslin
It seems to me that in many contexts, Asians are not considered minorities today. Sure, they are only 5% of the population, but they are not minorities, because they tend to be quite successful.

As far as I can see, when people use the word "minority", they mean to refer to unsuccessful losers who need special government assistance. Asians don't fit that mold.

3 posted on 05/24/2015 7:47:59 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Claire Wolfe should check her watch. It's time.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

The term minority is strictly quantitative.
You may also be shocked to know that the terms male and female refer to the type of genitalia the referenced creatures were born with.

You are welcome for the basic vocabulary lesson.


4 posted on 05/24/2015 7:53:46 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: MrEdd

I don’t understand the reason for such a smart-ass comment to the previous poster......


5 posted on 05/24/2015 8:00:22 AM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: MrEdd

Where was male/female even mentioned???????


6 posted on 05/24/2015 8:01:20 AM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: Kaslin

I love it. The mecca of intellectual liberalism, Harvard, practices racist, exclusionary admission practices against a particular people of color. They can’t spin this. This is racism. Oh, the irony.


7 posted on 05/24/2015 8:01:24 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Kaslin

Asians have strong family values, meaning brother, sisters and parents work together to help each other succeed. They don’t seem to be preoccupied with same sex marriage.


8 posted on 05/24/2015 8:02:17 AM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: MrEdd

If you would like a lesson in sentence structure, it may interest you to know you do not end a sentence with a preposition.

You typed, “...referenced creatures were born with.”

Correctly, you should have typed, “...with which the referenced creatures were born.”

THUS ENDETH THE LESSON


9 posted on 05/24/2015 8:05:16 AM PDT by Boonie ("Nuke 'em all...Let Allah sort 'em out...)
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To: Kaslin

Hey how about that Chinese physics prof at Temple U that sold trade secrets to China and had a boatload of chinese students helping him?


10 posted on 05/24/2015 8:17:59 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
It seems to me that in many contexts, Asians are not considered minorities today.

Asians mostly vote liberal, and now they want to be exempted from the side-effects.

11 posted on 05/24/2015 8:19:35 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode

Yep . . .you reap what you sow.

They are amongst the most conservative-values of Americans.

Yet politically too many just don’t get it.

This was a GOP opportunity-lost decades ago. “Affirmative action” should have been stopped years prior to Bakke v. California Regents


12 posted on 05/24/2015 8:29:45 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (The First Amendment = Freedom of Religion = Religious Liberty = Applies to Everyone)
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To: Kaslin

Punishing intelligent achievers and rewarding indolent dummies.


13 posted on 05/24/2015 8:34:44 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Kaslin

Are there any stats on Jewish applicants/admittances?

Just curious . .for there seems to be ALOT of bios with that elite private academy/left wing/Ivy League/Jewish-named “journ-o-lists” government and NGO employees.

So if my suspicions are correct, there are disproportionate Jewish and Asian students, quotas for blacks, Latinos and Muslims . . . .leaving, gee, guess who, out?

If Harvard does indeed use quotas, may I suggest one for unattractive women. When I stomped around campus for a few hours, I saw what I would consider one, yes, one attractive female.

And she was Asian. Everyone else were Plain Janes or ugly feminist left winger types.


14 posted on 05/24/2015 8:45:12 AM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (The First Amendment = Freedom of Religion = Religious Liberty = Applies to Everyone)
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To: Ethan Clive Osgoode
Asians mostly vote liberal, and now they want to be exempted from the side-effects.

Oh really? Can you quote a source on that?

15 posted on 05/24/2015 8:52:34 AM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: Cry if I Wanna
Can you quote a source on that?

Just picking something at random:

Why Are Asian Americans Democrats?

16 posted on 05/24/2015 9:06:51 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
Today, nearly 5 percent of Americans have Asian ancestry, tracing to countries from India to Japan. The Pew Research Center reports that they are "the highest-income, best-educated and fastest-growing racial group in the United States." They are overrepresented in fields like medicine, engineering and computer science. In Silicon Valley, they hold half of the tech jobs.
What persecution? I mean, do they ever burn down a town? Do they only get admitted to Harvard because some rich muzzie from the Middle East intervenes on their behalf? The whole thing reeks of non-white-privilege to me. /s
17 posted on 05/24/2015 9:10:55 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: I want the USA back
"Positive stereotypes about Asian Americans are rooted in reality: They are more educated, wealthier and value work, marriage and family more than Americans as a whole, according to a Pew Research report out today."

This picture of the needy and helpless American Negro personifies who too many are: (not a pretty picture) On the other hand, speeches like Michelle Obama's to the graduating class at Tuskegee University seemed full of her bitterness...someone close to her when she was very young and again through out her life, kept her from realizing how fortunate she was to have a family like hers...Al Sharpton, the odious little race pimp close to the Obama's.... Asian Americans do not relie on the color of their skin, with them it is all about values.

18 posted on 05/24/2015 9:21:09 AM PDT by yoe
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To: skeeter

From “For Asian Americans, a changing landscape on college admissions”, http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-adv-asian-race-tutoring-20150222-story.html#page=1

African Americans received a “bonus” of 230 points, Lee says.

She points to the second column.

“Hispanics received a bonus of 185 points.”

The last column draws gasps.

Asian Americans, Lee says, are penalized by 50 points — in other words, they had to do that much better to win admission.


19 posted on 05/24/2015 9:37:29 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: Kaslin

Can I ask a stupid question? Pardon my ignorance, but.......

Aren’t quotas or restrictive admission policies against the law? Maybe I’m just completely ignorant? Do civil rights laws banning racial/ethnic discrimination just not apply at all to the area of college admissions???


20 posted on 05/24/2015 10:48:53 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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