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Witness: ‘It was a setup from start to finish’ (Waco Bikers)
Dallas Morning News ^ | 05/24/2015 | Tim Madigan and Kevin Sullivan (WaPo)

Posted on 05/24/2015 7:08:05 AM PDT by texas booster

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To: Travis McGee

The OMGs seem like real creampuffs compared to Crips, Bloods, MS13 and the like.
Were there not 43 dead in a Mexican cartel fight just last week?


61 posted on 05/24/2015 12:11:48 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: texas booster

Thanks for the ping, fellow list holder :-)

Nice to see ya using the ping list image too!


62 posted on 05/24/2015 12:18:02 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: USNBandit

“I hate to say this, but this band of violence is way better than cartel style. nobody has had their head chopped off and there were actually survivors.”

...and people also aren’t getting kidnapped and having body parts sent to relatives. But what the hell, these are white people, so we (they) can beat them up at willll.


63 posted on 05/24/2015 12:38:26 PM PDT by BobL (REPUBLICANS - Fight for the WHITE VOTE...and you will win (see my 'about' page))
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To: dragnet2

“Others like bike clubs have this need to follow, the join up mentality, be in a club, have rules imposed, wear flashy patches, announcing to the world what they’re all about.”

Maybe Obama can issue some edict whereby the bikers must dress in less distressing “colors”.


64 posted on 05/24/2015 1:15:43 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Barack Obama is not inarguably sane.)
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To: Travis McGee

In regards to the pic of the ‘undercover’ cop. Did he get his pant legs up over the top of his cowboy boots during the melee, or from yanking them on after getting the call, while heading for the squad car?

I don’t know about him. But my brother has been a cop for almost 30 yrs, and more than once, after getting the call, has had only enough time to grab his vest, guns, and car keys.


65 posted on 05/24/2015 3:42:36 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: fireman15

**I know a whole lot of guys that ride around on Harleys trying to look like they are tough. Every one that I know are doing it to have fun and live some type of strange fantasy that I do not really understand. They are mostly a bunch of retired guys.**

Don’t get me wrong, I like riding a motorcycle as much as the next guy, but the image of toughness is indeed a fantasy. Whether is a 4,000 pound car, or a 180 grain bullet, toughness is has very real limits.

I’ve known Harleys (or any interest that ends up superceding being a husband and father) to help break up marriages.

I was sitting in a truckstop once, listening to a driver lament the breaking up of his family years ago. He said trucking OTR is tough on families, so, when a guy gets home, he needs to use that time wisely. Instead, he said, he would go riding his Harley with his friends, stopping at the bars, and the next thing you know, ‘misbehaving’. He said the song by Bruce Springsteen helped take him over the top, and, just like the song, left his wife and kids, “went out for a ride and never went back”.

I remember when I first heard that song, I thought, “I wonder how many strained marriages will fall victim to that stupid advice”. It’s not “everybody’s got a hungry heart”; it’s everybody’s got to battle lusts that destroy families.

One of the best things to happen to my marriage and fatherhood, was selling my sports car, and spending more time with my young family. The memories have proven it so.


66 posted on 05/24/2015 4:04:50 PM PDT by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....Do you believe it?)
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To: Zuriel

Well said.


67 posted on 05/24/2015 4:50:42 PM PDT by Talisker (One whxo commands, must obey.)
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To: Boomer

If you, under the RICO Act, can be arrested for merely being a member of something, and I am not doubting what you say, why arrest all members of the Democrat Party? Because it fits the definition of what is covered under the RICO Act to a tee.


68 posted on 05/24/2015 4:57:23 PM PDT by sport
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To: spodefly

“The Waco thing doesn’t smell right,....”


I am with you.

Looks like a great big setup by someone.

Way too much preparedness by SWAT to start taking down bikers.

Then Obama coming out the following week cancelling heavy military equipment going to PDs across the nation. Not that I am for our PD forces being armed like our military.

I live next to a county (Victoria, TX) who has more military equipment then most Counties in Texas. What for? Not to defend it’s Citizens, that is for sure because they are signed up for Jade Helm 15 and even offered DZs on the Sheriffs property......


69 posted on 05/24/2015 8:07:33 PM PDT by eartick (Been to the line in the sand and liked it)
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To: sport
If you, under the RICO Act, can be arrested for merely being a member of something, and I am not doubting what you say, why (not) arrest all members of the Democrat Party? Because it fits the definition of what is covered under the RICO Act to a tee.

Good point. I like the way you think. :)

70 posted on 05/25/2015 1:53:41 AM PDT by Boomer (America; love it or leave it. It isn't just a bumper sticker.)
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To: Boomer

Seems to me that provision is a temptation to huge hypocrisy by politicians.

It causes the scene to descend into a crude unseemly contest of who can create the larger racket.

I think politicians should be ashamed to say (or maybe they are proud) that their rackets dwarf those of outlaw bikers.


71 posted on 05/25/2015 1:59:26 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: eartick; Salamander

They call it a setup, I think we could better relate to it by calling it a double cross.

And whoever saw the double cross coming and “dinsay nuffin” is also complicit in the carnage.

There are poxes on several houses here and not all of them are the houses of narsty bikers either.


72 posted on 05/25/2015 2:02:50 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Coulda picked up Koresh any day he went into town, too.


73 posted on 05/25/2015 2:19:58 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: Salamander

That was called Waco as that was the nearest city, but it was 20 miles away. So okay picky point granted, when Koresh went into the nearby unincorporated county, he might have been arrested or questioned.

The result was execrated pretty widely across FR at the time. Establishment men in their DC ivory towers (that even included Danforth) appeared to whitewash it. Sometimes it is possible to get the picky points “right” and still come up with a very ill-bent tragedy.


74 posted on 05/25/2015 2:24:15 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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