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Witness: ‘It was a setup from start to finish’ (Waco Bikers)
Dallas Morning News ^ | 05/24/2015 | Tim Madigan and Kevin Sullivan (WaPo)

Posted on 05/24/2015 7:08:05 AM PDT by texas booster

WACO — Richie was the first to die, then Diesel, then Dog.

Whatever else they were in life, the men with the biker nicknames were Cossacks, loud and proud and riders in a Texas motorcycle gang. And that’s what got them killed, shot to death in a brawl with a rival gang in the parking lot of a Texas “breastaurant” that advertised hot waitresses and cold beer.

“I saw the first three of our guys fall, and we started running,” said their brother-in-arms, another Cossack, who said he was there a week ago when the shooting started at the Twin Peaks restaurant.

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In several interviews in recent days, the Cossacks rider offered a different story. He said the Cossacks were invited to the Twin Peaks patio that day — by a Bandido leader, who offered to make peace in a long-running feud between the two gangs. That invitation was a setup for an ambush, though, according to the Cossack. That’s why the dead included six Cossacks, one Scimitar (an ally of the Cossacks) and only two Bandidos.

The biker’s story could not be independently verified; most of those involved in the shootout are still in jail. But significant parts of his account square with police statements, as well as security camera videos obtained by The Associated Press.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: bandidos; blackwidows; cossacks; drugdealers; scimitars; texas; twinpeaks; waco; wacobikers; whocares
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

. and they were getting their lives together and going to marry the mothers of some of their children, and they were all model parolees and honor students.It’s that 99% that make the other 1% look bad....
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Ferguson or Baltimore U talkin bout??? /sarc


21 posted on 05/24/2015 7:53:38 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: fireman15

I ride too, these are gang bangers on motorcycles, meth death dealers.

Most riders aren’t.


22 posted on 05/24/2015 7:56:48 AM PDT by dila813
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To: texas booster

“The Cossack, president of a North Texas chapter of the motorcycle gang, asked not to be identified”

Ya...that’d be hard to figure who this is......

Thanks for not giving his name and address.....


23 posted on 05/24/2015 7:57:00 AM PDT by G Larry (Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
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To: Travis McGee

But, but all those “Ghost Shirts” were supposed to protect the warriors from the white man’s bullets!


24 posted on 05/24/2015 7:59:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: fireman15

Most bikers are anything but the stereotype during the week, they’re out playing on weekends on their Harleys, it’s a lifestyle thing, keeps them from feeling too old and out of it I guess, wouldn’t hurt a fly but don’t mind being perceived as bad-@ for a few days. Most, not all, though. There are hardcore, violent biker gangs. For unfamiliar people, it’s tough to distinguish the two. I still don’t know what to think of this thing in Waco. A little of both I suspect, but nagging doubts keep popping up about outside “help.”


25 posted on 05/24/2015 8:00:14 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: G Larry

“Thanks for not giving his name and address.....”

Wudja send me “home addys” of the 535 Princes of the Universe” plz !


26 posted on 05/24/2015 8:01:37 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: texas booster

Wait, what? I though the setup was by the police who hosed down masses of peaceful, law-abiding bikers in the parking lot with fully automatic weapons. I mean, that’s what all the biker and nutter conspiracy websites are pretending like happened.


27 posted on 05/24/2015 8:08:46 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: litehaus

” and they were getting their lives together and going to marry the mothers of some of their children, and they were all model parolees and honor students.It’s that 99% that “
make the other 1% look bad....”

Yeah, I heard they were on the verge of turning their bikes around and getting ready to go to community college to learn trade skills. And then the evil police set them up and hosed them down in the parking lot with a phalanx of fully automatic machine guns just when they were getting ready to start the flower-arranging class in the breastraunt meeting room usually reserved for the Rotary Club.


28 posted on 05/24/2015 8:13:59 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: jstaff

NO, WAIT!

I HEARD on FR that they were on the verge of turning their bikes around and getting ready to go to community college to learn trade skills. And then the evil police set them up and hosed them down in the parking lot with a phalanx of fully automatic machine guns just when they were getting ready to start the flower-arranging class in the breastraunt meeting room usually reserved for the Rotary Club.


29 posted on 05/24/2015 8:15:54 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

I hate to say this, but this band of violence is way better than cartel style. nobody has had their head chopped off and there were actually survivors.


30 posted on 05/24/2015 8:18:45 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: USNBandit

That’s where the American Style comes in.


31 posted on 05/24/2015 8:28:24 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie
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To: dila813

Exactly. My husband and I rode for years and sometimes rode in charity events. The folks we associated with were nothing like these gangs.

People who get involved in violent gangs suffer from arrested development that will eventually result in multiple arrests, violence and a high probability of premature death. Drugs and crime always do.


32 posted on 05/24/2015 8:36:32 AM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: Travis McGee

Absolutely. It isn’t ever so simple as the authorities would have us believe, and the news media are complicit. I ride, though not under anyone’s colors, have friends who ride with Bandidos, Booze Fighters and Hell’s Angels, and though some of these people are crazy and violent, this just isn’t a realistic story at all. I suspect that it’s more narrative building from the Obama government.


33 posted on 05/24/2015 8:48:13 AM PDT by Hugh the Scot ( Total War)
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To: Hugh the Scot
have friends who ride with... Hell’s Angels

Remember that 11 year old boy who was blown up by a Hell's Angel's car bomb? Just asking.

34 posted on 05/24/2015 8:51:23 AM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode (<<== Click here to learn about Evolution!)
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To: Hugh the Scot

The giveaway was arresting all 170 and putting them under million dollar bails.

At this point in the process, or soon, they will be offered a reduction to 1,000 dollars bail, and return of property (bikes, trucks) but not their phones or cameras. (They will be lost.)

In exchange for the reduction in bail, they will be forced to sign an agreement to keep their mouths shut forever about what happened.

If the PD spin was true, we’d have already seen videos from ten angles.


35 posted on 05/24/2015 8:55:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

It’s coming. If there is one trend in drug trafficking in this country in the last five years, it is the expansion of cartel control of trafficking inside the U.S.


36 posted on 05/24/2015 9:02:02 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: texas booster
The Banditos are in cahoots with the Mexican drug cartels and often provide security for officers of those cartels when the come to the US.

Illegally, of course.

The Banditos are not to be trifled with and even the Hells Angels avoid confrontation with them when possible.

There is an ongoing, cold&hot war between the Banditos, aligned with the Mongols and the Mexican cartels...and the Hells Angels, often aligned with the Outlaws (white boys from the south and mid west).

This war has seen substantial events, like the use of rocket-propelled grenades shooting into the clubhouse and private homes in Germany and Denmark.

Banditos are determined to be top dog. Hells Angels are determined to stay on top.

Both use murderous violence to get their way and this war is just now heating up.

What happened in Waco is but a minor skirmish on the fringes...and not even part of the bigger war.

37 posted on 05/24/2015 9:14:11 AM PDT by Mariner
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To: Travis McGee

On veteran’s benefit runs, I have always recommended FR to the bikers I talked to and the vets in the hospitals.

I don’t think that’s gonna be happening, anymore.


38 posted on 05/24/2015 9:23:13 AM PDT by Salamander (Like acid and oil on a madman's face, reason tends to fly away.)
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To: jstaff

LOL!


39 posted on 05/24/2015 9:30:38 AM PDT by Cyman (We have to pass it to see what's in it= definition of stool sample)
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To: Travis McGee
This is the BS crapola police-spin version put out for the rubes.

Ditto.
40 posted on 05/24/2015 9:45:05 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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