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Adopted 'Father' and 'Son' to Marry
Daily Beast ^ | 20 May 2015 | not given

Posted on 05/21/2015 9:57:08 AM PDT by mbarker12474

Adopted 'Father' and 'Son' to Marry Pennsylvania couple Bill Novak and Norman MacArthur are legally adopted father and son, but soon they will marry. The couple of more than 50 years registered as domestic partners in 1994, but were told after moving from New York City to Pennsylvania that “hell would freeze over before Pennsylvania approves same sex marriage.” Since they needed to do estate planning, a lawyer advised them that the only way to become legally related was through adoption. This year, however, a federal district court declared the state’s same-sex marriage ban unconstitutional, so the couple petitioned to vacate their adoption decree and now may legally marry. “We are ecstatic beyond relief,” MacArthur said. “I feel an enormous sense of not only relief but freedom that we can finally do something in Pennsylvania that I’ve been dreaming of for years.”


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: adoption; barfalert; gaymarriage; homosexual; marriage
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A few thoughts:

1. Adoption as a means to gain legal rights, licensing rights, and contract rights which are identical to or nearly identical to those of licensed, contractual marriage. Noteworthy.

2. One can adopt multiple 'children'. Irrelevant?

3. Once Pennsylvania was forced to accept gay marriage, the adoption tactic became moot.

4. Adoption is a running theme in the New Testament. I'm not sure where to go with this, but it adds another layer of consideration in the whole Bible vs Homosexuality discussion.

5. Does this adoption angle into homosexual marriage lead anywhere?

1 posted on 05/21/2015 9:57:09 AM PDT by mbarker12474
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To: mbarker12474
This is nausea inducing.
2 posted on 05/21/2015 9:59:11 AM PDT by mojito (Zero, our Nero.)
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To: mbarker12474

So when the “son” inherits the estate, does he have to pay taxes?


3 posted on 05/21/2015 10:00:15 AM PDT by Jolla
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To: mbarker12474
the "happy" "gay" "couple"

one said he was happy beyond relief.....




4 posted on 05/21/2015 10:00:29 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: mbarker12474
Ew.
5 posted on 05/21/2015 10:00:40 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: mojito
This is nausea inducing.

No more than any other gay marriage. The headline is sensational. They were never "father" and "son" in any sort of familial relationship whatsoever. They were sticking it to the taxman, that's all.

6 posted on 05/21/2015 10:02:11 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: martin_fierro

I honestly don’t care. They love each other..mazel tov. But why can’t they settle the inheritance stuff through legal means? What do you gain from marriage that you can’t just legally do in a contract as a beneficiary?


7 posted on 05/21/2015 10:03:46 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: mbarker12474

It was only a matter of time.

Next - pet dogs, sheep and horses.


8 posted on 05/21/2015 10:04:42 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: martin_fierro

Well, my mama told me many times that it takes al kinds to make a world. However, there are some “kinds” that I’m happier not knowing about.


9 posted on 05/21/2015 10:05:19 AM PDT by basil (2ASisters.org)
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To: mbarker12474

Could be a good ploy for the “surviving spouse” for Social Security or a pension that cannot be inherited by a child.


10 posted on 05/21/2015 10:05:25 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: Hildy

Without a so called “marriage” they cannot stick it tot the church and everyone else who says that what they are doing is gross and unnatural (and abominable)

gay marriage was never about being married. The faggots don’t care whether they are married to whatever they are sticking themselves into. It was always about destroying normal society.


11 posted on 05/21/2015 10:08:19 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: mbarker12474

The estate planning straw argument is what annoys me: anybody can put anybody else in his/her will, NOTHING prevented these people from executing wills, powers of attorney or anything else required for estate planning.


12 posted on 05/21/2015 10:08:24 AM PDT by jagusafr
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To: mbarker12474

America 2015: Pervert nation.

The country really requires a new flag. Ditch the stars-and-stripes and just put a depiction of a big ‘ole anus on a white sheet. The latter would also handily reflect our new culture of “special snowflake” spinelessness.


13 posted on 05/21/2015 10:09:06 AM PDT by greene66
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I found this totally repulsive.

And here I thought it was the end of bizarre, crazy depraved stories regarding gays and matrimony. Never underestimate the capacity of the human psyche, imagination to conjure up ways to shock and horrify. Okay, you're probably thinking this is the last of it, but I guarantee you that there's some new not yet thought of ways in the marriage of freaks.

14 posted on 05/21/2015 10:09:36 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama:Misbegotten, Godforsaken Bastard Offspring of Satan And Medusa.)
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To: JPG; lbryce

ping


15 posted on 05/21/2015 10:10:16 AM PDT by lbryce (Obama:Misbegotten, Godforsaken Bastard Offspring of Satan And Medusa.)
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To: jagusafr

anybody can put anybody else in his/her will, NOTHING prevented these people from executing wills, powers of attorney or anything else required for estate planning.

only a surviving spouse can inherit an estate in Pennsylvania without paying a significant tax bite...thus, same sex ‘marriage’...


16 posted on 05/21/2015 10:21:11 AM PDT by IrishBrigade
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To: mbarker12474

I just don’t know anymore.


17 posted on 05/21/2015 10:22:15 AM PDT by patro (Phrogs Phorever)
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To: Jack Hammer

Read the story and not the BS headline.


18 posted on 05/21/2015 10:23:12 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: jagusafr

The estate planning straw argument is what annoys me:

It was the hospitals that started this entire mess. If they just let friends into see their friends, we would not be in this mess. Hospitals being picky about who could see someone was a dumb move and ruined our country.


19 posted on 05/21/2015 10:24:52 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Walker for President 2016. The only candidate with actual real RESULTS!!!!! The rest...talkers!)
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To: jagusafr
The estate planning straw argument is what annoys me: anybody can put anybody else in his/her will, NOTHING prevented these people from executing wills, powers of attorney or anything else required for estate planning.

There are many familial relationships you can replicate in a will or contractually. But, not all of them.

There are others, but I think you see my point. It's not a "straw argument" at all.

20 posted on 05/21/2015 10:30:54 AM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderators)
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