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Rock Hurling Is Old Nemesis of Train Crews
NY Times ^ | MAY 16, 2015 | DAVE PHILIPPS and ELIZABETH A. HARRISMAY

Posted on 05/16/2015 8:48:03 PM PDT by Second Amendment First

PHILADELPHIA — In the dark blocks of crumbling rowhouses pushed up against vacant factories along Glenwood Avenue, a group of young men hanging out on a stoop on a recent night said it was easy to sneak onto the nearby railroad tracks.

“There’s fences, but a lot of times they are falling down,” said a 16-year-old with long hair and a thin mustache who gave only his first name, Isaac. “A lot of people go down, creepy people, bums — they throw rocks, they throw bottles, but usually it’s no big deal.”

Work continued Friday at the derailment site to restore service between Philadelphia and New York.

Nevertheless, the possibility that a flying object hit an Amtrak train before it lurched off the rails Tuesday in Philadelphia has unnerved riders and drawn increased public scrutiny to the safety along that stretch of track. Federal and railway officials say being struck by rocks, bricks and even bullets is a longstanding problem for trains in the country’s rail systems. While not speculating on the cause of Tuesday’s accident, a retired Amtrak engineer and a former transportation safety official with the federal government each said that a projectile striking a train would be a dangerous distraction for an engineer.

Investigators have not assigned a cause or blame for the crash of Amtrak’s Northeast Regional Train 188 as it made its way to New York from Washington. Eight passengers were killed and more than 200 people, including members of the crew, were injured.

The engineer, Brandon Bostian, told investigators that he had no recollection of anything after passing the North Philadelphia station. Around the same time, projectiles also hit two other trains in the area, breaking windows.

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1 posted on 05/16/2015 8:48:03 PM PDT by Second Amendment First
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To: Second Amendment First

Boy, the Men Seeking Men media is going all out to protect their fellow gay from being held responsible for killing 8 people and injuring hundreds of others.


2 posted on 05/16/2015 8:55:20 PM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Second Amendment First
That's nothing, I was travelling by train from Portland, Oregon to Tacoma, Washington a few years back when, right after we crossed the Columbia river, we saw a carload of college aged gals, off to the side flashing us with their...um...upper frontal parts?

I was mortified and quickly looked away as soon as they disappeared in the distance.

3 posted on 05/16/2015 8:56:12 PM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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To: Second Amendment First

What does rock throwing have to do with derailing a 5,000 ton train?

Are they suggesting a rock or brick derailed the train? Are they suggesting a big rock hit the engineer in the face, knocking him unconscious?


4 posted on 05/16/2015 8:56:58 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: PROCON
No pics, Army Bro?

"I am an American fighting man. I serve in the forces which guard my country and our way of life.
I am prepared to give my life in their defense."

5 posted on 05/16/2015 8:59:24 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in Battle!)
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To: dragnet2

It startled the train which bolted and shied to one side.
Trains should be fitted with blinders to prevent this.


6 posted on 05/16/2015 9:01:37 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: ConorMacNessa
No pics, Army Bro?

Hey, we were doing 60 mph, who can find a camera at that speed?

Evening Navy Bro, hope all is well with you.

7 posted on 05/16/2015 9:02:11 PM PDT by PROCON (CRUZing into 2016 with Ted.)
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To: dragnet2

“Are they suggesting a big rock hit the engineer in the face, knocking him unconscious?”

That’s what they are suggesting. Supposedly there was also a suspicious fist-sized hole in the engineer’s cabin consistent with a rock.

Could all be lies to coverup liability, of couse


8 posted on 05/16/2015 9:05:42 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

This NY Times piece all but explicitly claimed a rock hit the train.

So, why did the homosexual driving the train speed up from zero, past 50 mph, up to 106 mph?


9 posted on 05/16/2015 9:13:25 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly, but socialists' ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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To: TigersEye

The train could have been startled and took off in fear. Yep.

Or maybe the engineer was having an asthma attack, hanging his head out the window for air when he got his bell rung by a projectile.

Like a slapstick skit.


10 posted on 05/16/2015 9:13:50 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Make your jokes fast before they’re presented as serious commentary on MSLSD.


11 posted on 05/16/2015 9:19:11 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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To: Texas Eagle

“Boy, the Men Seeking Men media is going all out to protect their fellow gay from being held responsible for killing 8 people and injuring hundreds of others.”
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You’re right, I’m not sure what’s going on here but something is going on. I’ve never heard so many shouts of SQUIRREL, SQUIRREL, SQUIRREL with fingers being pointed in other direction.

This was either GROSS, GROSS negligence by the engineer or it was an unsuccessful suicide attempt by the engineer.


12 posted on 05/16/2015 9:19:55 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: Second Amendment First

Twice the speed limit. That’s the issue.


13 posted on 05/16/2015 9:22:54 PM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
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To: Texas Eagle

Boy, the Men Seeking Men media is going all out to protect their fellow gay from being held responsible for killing 8 people and injuring hundreds of others.


Exactly!!! The deaths and injuries were caused by him going 106 MPH.


14 posted on 05/16/2015 9:23:58 PM PDT by boycott
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To: varyouga

“...Supposedly there was also a suspicious fist-sized hole in the engineer’s cabin consistent with a rock....”
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From the picture I saw it was NOT A HOLE. It was a circular area of cracked (but NOT PENETRATED) glass. It could also be consistent with the engine going 106 MPH as it derailed with the engine’s windshield hitting something (pole with warning light, etc.).


15 posted on 05/16/2015 9:24:40 PM PDT by House Atreides (CRUZ or lose!)
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To: varyouga

Thanks. I read that earlier.

They could probably pinpoint where the object was thrown by looking at when/where the train sped up etc. I imagine an impact wound resulting in a KO would be significant.

Seems odd there is no video from the engine. They even have video on the train rides at Disneyland.


16 posted on 05/16/2015 9:28:59 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Texas Eagle

Boy, the Men Seeking Men media is going all out to protect their fellow gay from being held responsible for killing 8 people and injuring hundreds of others.


We would never hear a word about a rock if he was just Christian clinging to his guns and religion.


17 posted on 05/16/2015 9:30:24 PM PDT by boycott
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To: Texas Eagle

Queers lie , people died.

A cover up to protect the protected queer class of people.

Next they will turn his life into a warm fuzzy human interest story and make him out to be the victim and turn him into some kind of hero.

This is sick.


18 posted on 05/16/2015 9:36:29 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: House Atreides

I saw a similar closeup shot of the front-end. That’s what I saw.

It appeared the right side of the engine roof/frame was slightly caved in causing the right side top corner of the windshield frame to compress, causing the windshield to crack.


19 posted on 05/16/2015 9:38:48 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: House Atreides
Here is a link to a pic of the front of the engine. (can't post the pic it's AP)

Pic of 601

There are two smashed areas and neither appears to be penetrated. I don't know how anyone could say that damage didn't occur when it derailed.

20 posted on 05/16/2015 9:40:27 PM PDT by TigersEye (STONE COLD ZOMBIE SCOURGE)
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