Posted on 05/12/2015 11:49:37 AM PDT by Colofornian
...The Patriots have no one to blame for this but themselves. They have been arrogant and defiant from the start — demanding apologies when none were deserved, ignoring Goodell’s orders of full cooperation and obstructing Ted Wells’s investigation...
Why did Wells find it “more probable than not” that the Patriots tampered with the footballs? Forget the science, which has giant holes. It’s because the Patriots couldn’t, or wouldn’t, answer Wells’s legitimate and unbiased questions.
Why did McNally slip out of the locker room with the bag of footballs without Walt Anderson or another official as his escort? Why did McNally go into that bathroom for one minute and 30 seconds? Why didn’t McNally tell NFL officials about his trip to the bathroom at first, eventually change his story, then say incorrectly that he used a urinal in a bathroom that doesn’t have a urinal? Why did McNally and Jastremski text each other about needles, and then lie about a reference to a “friend” that clearly was about Brady? Why did Brady say he didn’t know McNally when Jastremski said he definitely did?
Their sudden amnesia hurt them badly in the court of Goodell.
Finally, why were the punishments so harsh both for Brady and the organization? They didn’t fully cooperate, as Wells explained in frustration in his report.
The Patriots refused to make McNally available for a follow-up interview after the investigators discovered new information, ostensibly the “deflator” comments in McNally’s texts. Their rationale was that McNally already had been interviewed four times, and a fifth time would have been excessive, because he lives in New Hampshire and has a job. Sorry. You make him available on the weekend, or after work. If McNally could exonerate the Patriots, they should have made him available 27 times...
(Excerpt) Read more at bostonglobe.com ...
Exactly (see post #20)
Also, Brady's completion % from 06...when nfl supplied footballs...to 07 when they were "Bradyized"...went from 61 to 68 percent...
Not like Brady was a "slouch" pre 07...given that he led them to 3 Superbowls.
there is no difference in using improperly infalted footballs and intentional fouling in the final minutes of a basket ball game.
Rather than press blather and fines, there should be 5 yard penalties
The blood sucker ex jocks and jockwishtheyweres in the feeble minded sports press are after salary increases. Their hypocritical stance proves they have no regard for rues.
“the dismissal of the scientific evidence supported by the Ideal Gas Law in the final report”
Physics professor: Deflategate report’s science holds up - http://www.boston.com/sports/football/patriots/2015/05/06/physics-professor-deflategate-report-science-holds/T2HqI3vFVivr9grXOD2VEI/story.html
The analysis of how many running plays each team averages, how often fumbles happen when you have fewer running plays, teams that don’t have ‘feature’ running backs with 2-3 dozen carries per game and are not as tired at the end of the game when you more likely to fumble.
Stick with the bold/large...much more convincing than any actual analysis...
Is this thread going to get pulled, too?
Not having waded into this prior, if it were up to just me:
The TEAM would forfeit the Superbowl, rings and all awards thereof and fiscal penalty would be leveled against Brady & the team owners.
Plus, ban from play for the TEAM for a full season.
But that’s just me...
More like no difference in using improperly inflated footballs & improperly inflated basketballs...
So...hey...just the allow the OTHER team's equipment mgr to get ahold of that basketball of your fave NBA team as your player is about to go to the free throw line with the game on the line with 1 second left...
Oh, and btw, in case you didn't notice...intentional fouling in basketball is done before all the world to see...not in some secluded place where the equipment mgrs takes the balls...telling the NFL he went there to pee with no urinal in that given room...
Sorry...sloppy analysis...fumbles are NOT more likely to occur the last half of the 4th qtr of any game than other pts of the game.
Yes...deflategate report correct on its science; Pats on the other hand grasping for straws:
From that link you cited:
...University professor Martin Schmaltz....the discrepancies between drops in pressure between the Colts balls and the Patriots balls was likely too much to be chance, according to Schmaltz. “I see that the Colts’ balls pressure dropped about half a PSI and the Patriots balls seem to be more like 1.5, or maybe between one and 1.5,” says Schmaltz. “So it’s a little mysterious why the Patriots’ balls dropped more.”
(Well, not so "mysterious" when you have an equipment mgr who actually...truly...nicknamed himself "the deflator")
Continuing that link excerpt: According to the report, the Patriots’ balls began the game inflated to at least 12.5 PSI, while the Colts’ balls were around 13 PSI, give or take a tenth of a PSI. But it’s not the drop in PSI from that reference point that Schmaltz says looks bad for the Patriots, but the drops relative to each other. According to Schmaltz, the ideal gas law equation suggests a drop in temperature from 68 or 70 would produce a drop of less than 1 PSI in a ball inflated to 12.5 or 13 PSI. While the report found the Colts’ balls measured at or around the league-minimum 12.5 PSI at halftime, many of the Patriots balls were a PSI or more below that threshold, a drop so large its unlikely to have been caused by atmospheric conditions. While a 12.5 PSI ball could drop to 11.6 PSI, by his calculations, with a temperature drop from 68 or 70 degrees to 51, given both sets being subject to the same conditions, it’s suspicious the Patriots’ balls would drop so much further.
And here we had all these FREEPERcheaterapologists in January & February providing defenses for cheating by citing "science"...yet never could address why the fifty one degree weather didn't similarly impact the Colts' footballs...
I think these FREEPERs would make good cheater apologists explaining why it tends to be dead DEMOCRATS who vote...or why it's living DEMOCRATS who seem to vote early & vote often...
Are you familiar with the phrase “non sequitur”?
From another FR thread and Breitbart:
Here are the top-ten reasons why an honest and impartial arbiter will toss the suspension:
#10. Ted Wells Judges 100 Seconds Enough Time to Deflate Balls But 13 Minutes Not Long Enough for Refs to Test Balls?
#9 Wells Report Labels Texts Undermining Case a ‘Joke,’ Texts Buttressing Case Dead Serious
#8. Ted Wells Doesn’t Really Know the Pregame Pressure Levels
#7 After Relying on Walt Anderson’s ‘Best Recollection,’ Wells Disregards It
#6. The Refs and Their Gauges Fluctuated Greatly
#5 The NFL Doesn’t Punish for Ball Tampering
#4. Wells Report Misleadingly Says Pats Shielded Ball Handler from Follow-Up Interview
#3 A Whole Lot of ‘More Probably Than Not’ Adds Up to Unlikely
#2 Wells Cherry Picks Data by Relying on Best Pressure Readings from Colts, Worst Ones from Patriots
#1 NFL Uses Different Ball Pressure Standard for Pats and Colts
From the Boston article upon which this thread is based:
Why did McNally and Jastremski text each other about needles, and then lie about a reference to a “friend” that clearly was about Brady? Why did Brady say he didn’t know McNally when Jastremski said he definitely did?
(I also saw an article that apparently one of these two suddenly visited Brady post game in the locker room after the Colts game...when that had NEVER previously happened)
Hmmm...seems like the convo is easy enough to partially reconstruct: "Uh, Tom, we got caught at half. Now what?"
And Why would Brady tell the NFL he doesn't know his own equipment mgrs...especially when one of them is his sudden locker-room visitor post-Colts game?
So...more evidence than simply what you reduce/make it out to be...and even I reduce it here...as that's the nature of a report 243 pages long.
Haven't heard you whining about 100% of civil suits settled by this standard...
Why so fresh of an objection?
Does somebody first have to goard a fave football team for you to declare the Civil suit standard out of bounds?
The “more probably than not” statements are phrased that way due to the NFL/NFLPA collective bargaining agreement. The guy who wrote the report says he found direct evidence against Brady.
Even the Boston newspaper notes...(from thread excerpt above):
The Patriots refused to make McNally available for a follow-up interview after the investigators discovered new information, ostensibly the “deflator” comments in McNally’s texts. Their rationale was that McNally already had been interviewed four times, and a fifth time would have been excessive, because he lives in New Hampshire and has a job. Sorry. You make him available on the weekend, or after work. If McNally could exonerate the Patriots, they should have made him available 27 times...
Where did I read that the Patriots, when told by the investigator they had new info they wanted to run by McNally for a 5th interview, told the NFL they wouldn't even pass it on to McNally.
That's not "shielding?"
(You have a strange def)
Try again with your mind reading...
(IF that was the case...so does a LOT of NBA officiating...it's become more subjective as players became more physical thru the decades...yet I haven't heard you whine about the entire tenor of whistles blown during playoffs just because many fouls are "let go" and some nonfouls are called)
If that was the case EVERY NBA victory of any closer game could be called into question.
Really desperate for anything to fill out a #10, eh?
Refs don't practice weighing balls all week...Equipment mgrs knowing they have a limited amount of time can certainly do that...
100 seconds? Give an NFL team out of timeouts 100 literal seconds ... including clock time stoppage for first downs...and that's an "eternity" to run 11 plays, if necessary. If they can run 11 plays with great mobility over a 100 yard field in 100 literal seconds, a guys who is stationary and has plenty of locker room practice (either pregame and/or what they've done EVERY week going back to 2007 or however long they've been employed) would have no sweat accomplishing this 11 football task.
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