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Was Baltimore looted and burned over policy violations?
dragnet2 ^ | 5/2/2015 | dragnet2

Posted on 05/02/2015 10:40:00 PM PDT by dragnet2

We all saw the videos of the mayhem, arson, looting, vandalism and physical assaults in Baltimore the last few days. Very ugly stuff which will cost hundreds of millions and years of bad PR for Baltimore.

Then very quickly we see criminal charges filed. These people are facing many years in prison. Decades.

But of all the video, I never did see any clear evidence that the cops intentionally tried to harm or kill Freddie Gray.

In fact all I have really heard are references regarding possible policy or safety infractions. Such as not putting a seat belt on Gray and allegations they might not have sought medical attention quickly enough. The cops said they didn't know he was injured enough for medical attention until they reached the jail.

And I've seen no real evidence the driver was driving erratically.

I'm not sure any of these cops are guilty of anything which would rate prison time. Maybe being fired for not following policy or protocol. But decades long prison time?

They came to a decision to charge these cops really quickly. With that many players I would think it should take quite a while to figure out if actual criminal charges should even be filed.

Maybe they have some big evidence we have all yet to see. We'll see what evidence they allegedly have.

I look forward to seeing this evidence. But it better be good since Baltimore was looted and burned over it.


TOPICS: US: Maryland; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: baltimore; blackkk; elijahcummings; maryland; riots
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To: P-Marlowe

That was the cop driver that you just quoted.

You weren’t quoting me. By the way, where is this “execution” thing coming from?


21 posted on 05/03/2015 12:16:50 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

That thing scares the cr@p out of me. Unless strapped in I would fall off that bench and hurt myself.


22 posted on 05/03/2015 12:22:14 AM PDT by NathanR
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To: ansel12

5 people injured in the back of a police van in 18 years ? Not a bad record considering how many rides. But yes they should seat belt them as they should seat belt children in school buses and people riding metro buses.


23 posted on 05/03/2015 12:29:42 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: NathanR

With your hands handcuffed behind you, you would be in a heck of a situation.


24 posted on 05/03/2015 12:29:44 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: justa-hairyape

Those are the ones that came forward.

Are you confusing the bus rides that all of us here did daily for years and years, with being handcuffed with our hands behind us, inside one of those slick metal boxes?

Can you seriously imagine any city transporting children under the conditions that they were transporting people that they picked up on the streets?


25 posted on 05/03/2015 12:33:17 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Since I broke my back merely falling out of bed,I would indeed.


26 posted on 05/03/2015 12:36:20 AM PDT by NathanR
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To: ansel12
You weren’t quoting me. By the way, where is this “execution” thing coming from?

Generally the penalty for murder is death.

In this case the reputations of these officers have been destroyed. I suspect that at least one of them will commit suicide. That should appease the race baiters.

27 posted on 05/03/2015 12:39:52 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: dragnet2

I agree with your take on this.

I would like to see the written prisoner transport policy, but I haven’t been able to find one on the net.


28 posted on 05/03/2015 12:45:28 AM PDT by Gator113 (Cruz, Lee, and Sessions speak for me.... most anyone else is just noise.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Generally it isn’t, and Maryland doesn’t even have a death penalty, and this would never qualify for it anyway.

So you have gone from prison buses, to school buses, to cop executions, to now at least one of them is going to commit suicide.

Wouldn’t one of them have to be mentally unstable to do that?


29 posted on 05/03/2015 12:49:38 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Yep. In those school buses we were packed in like sardines in a can. And have been thrown around many times in a metro bus. Even on a sideways seat. Holding a bag on your lap is the same effect as being hand cuffed. You cannot brace from a quick stop or turn. Why don’t you take your campaign to the subways where it can really do some good. Trains have the same problem too. Why just protect criminals ?


30 posted on 05/03/2015 12:49:47 AM PDT by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)
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To: justa-hairyape
Holding a bag on your lap is the same effect as being hand cuffed.

Really? both hands free and natural, versus having both hands handcuffed behind your back, are you sure you are thinking clearly?

31 posted on 05/03/2015 12:51:54 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

I have no idea what your point is.

Do you support the cops or the mobs?


32 posted on 05/03/2015 12:52:08 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: P-Marlowe

I just want to know what happened.

You know that you really can just be a guy trying to keep up with the news, and the facts of it, and follow a story.


33 posted on 05/03/2015 12:54:46 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
I just want to know what happened.

Why do you care?

What is more important, you finding out what happened, or the country burning to the ground this summer in a series of race riots?

You sound like the idiots that were rioting. You want to know what happened? The guy was thrashing about in the back of the van and broke his neck. That's what happened.

Occam's Razor.

34 posted on 05/03/2015 12:57:56 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: P-Marlowe

Why is it so important to you?

You are lying like crazy, making up things, exaggerating insanely, attacking any attempt to clarify facts, and getting kind of nasty about it.

It is a news story, why are you going so insane as to lose your self respect and honesty?


35 posted on 05/03/2015 1:01:36 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

I suppose you think these cops deliberately tried to kill this guy?

Are you one of Free Republic’s resident cop haters?


36 posted on 05/03/2015 1:06:17 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: P-Marlowe

So now you want to drop the news and try to go personal, to do what?

You think that will cover up your bizarre posts confusing prison buses with a cop pick up van? Maybe cover up your claims that the cop is going to get the death penalty? Claims that this will result in one of the cops committing suicide?


37 posted on 05/03/2015 1:11:38 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

No “news story” has been posted here. Just a lot of hype.


38 posted on 05/03/2015 1:17:03 AM PDT by Misterioso (When men give up reason and freedom, the vacuum is filled by faith and force. -- Ayn Rand)
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To: ansel12
You think that will cover up your bizarre posts confusing prison buses with a cop pick up van?

The bus I showed you is a typical jail bus used to transport prisoners from jail to court. They do not have seat belts. Prisoners are free to thrash themselves about. Usually they don't. But if they do, the bus driver has to wait until they get to their destination before picking up the stupid prisoner who has accidentally broken his own neck.

Maybe cover up your claims that the cop is going to get the death penalty?

The driver of the van is reported to be receiving death threats and is in fear of his life. A mob execution is still an execution, isn't it?

Claims that this will result in one of the cops committing suicide?

A lot of cops whose careers have been unfairly destroyed end up committing suicide. Look it up.

39 posted on 05/03/2015 1:17:53 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Saying that ISIL is not Islamic is like saying Obama is not an Idiot.)
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To: Misterioso

Sure, but we can deal with the few facts that we do know, and if you look at my posts, I always try to keep it on the knowable.


40 posted on 05/03/2015 1:19:32 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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