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Scott Walker in Iowa: States should be allowed to ban same-sex marriages
The Cap Times, Madison ^ | April 26, 2015 | Jessie Opoien

Posted on 04/26/2015 6:04:32 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

The state of Alabama does recognize homosexual marriage. If you are an educator (college, university, primary, secondary) in any public institution in the state, then state provided medical insurance covers the same sex spouse if you choose.


21 posted on 04/26/2015 6:54:51 AM PDT by petitfour
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To: Jim Noble; Cincinatus' Wife

My preferred candidate is Ted Cruz.

Re: Scott Walker and same-sex marriage -

Under current court rulings striking down states on same-sex marriage, and under a coming SCOTUS ruling almost certain to make a sweeping determination that there’s a Constitutional right to same-sex marriage, the question then DOES become, “can states ban same-sex marriage?”

Walker appears to be advancing his own belief that states have the right to define marriage. Under the Tenth Amendment they certainly do. By banning all but heterosexual marriage between one man and one woman, that WAS where most states stood on this, until Holder refused to follow the Defense of Marriage Act, and until federal courts started knocking down states like dominos on this issue. Federal Courts nor any other federal branch were given that power, therefore it devolves to the states.

I don’t see a problem with Scott Walker on this issue. His stance is absolutely the correct and courageous one.

Walker is being criticized by some for allowing a court decision to decide it for Wisconsin. In other words for not standing for nullification, civil disobedience, resistance - whatever one calls it - when federal courts usurp states powers.

What he might be trying to do is use states to amend the Constitution to actually spell out in precise words that states are the ones to decide this issue, by making it an agenda item if a Fifth Amendment Convention of the States does happen (see Mark Levin’s “The Liberty Amendments”), to put such a proposed amendment in play, there.

That seems to be where he’s heading on this. What other venue could produce an amendment that says the states, only, can define marriage, besides that one?

In the meantime, let’s compare his position on whether to obey, or to nullify, a federal court ruling on this issue, with positions of other candidates on the same thing.

Let’s compare apples to apples.


22 posted on 04/26/2015 6:58:43 AM PDT by txrangerette (("...hold to the TRUTH; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck))
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To: EternalVigilance
Court opinions are not laws.

That might be news to all the people who voted for State Propositions that have been overturned by activist courts.

Walker believes marriage is between a man and a woman.

I'd like you to read this piece: Scott Walker, a Pastor’s Son, Runs on Faith as Iowa Beckons published in the NYT (not written to blow kisses at Scott Walker but it does inform us on some aspects that you might consider when you're making these opposition postings).

23 posted on 04/26/2015 7:00:19 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
“Marriage is between a man and a woman. We believe that. But I also believe that our nation is a nation of laws.

CW,

If citizens of a state overwhelmingly approve a constitutional amendment defining and upholding marriage, and some leftist hack federal judge strikes it down under false pretenses, then how can we be a nation of laws?

So we have to abide by a law deemed "the law" by usurpers who have absolutely no jurisdiction over our state, rather than the law voted on and added to the state constitution by its citizens?

24 posted on 04/26/2015 7:01:49 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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To: txrangerette

THANK YOU!


25 posted on 04/26/2015 7:02:22 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Walker believes marriage is between a man and a woman.

That's fine, but has he followed through and stood up for his beliefs and others who also believe that marriage is one man/one woman against the lawlessness of the federal courts.

26 posted on 04/26/2015 7:03:13 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Sadly, a constitutional amendment would probably have as little effect as the current constitution which most clearly does NOT mandate homosexual marriage. If the justices can rewrite existing law, they can certainly rewrite any new laws. The problem isn’t the constitution. It’s the people we elect and their failure to reign in the judicial branch.

There’s a whole lot of judges needin’ impeachin’.


27 posted on 04/26/2015 7:03:22 AM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: CitizenUSA
There’s a whole lot of judges needin’ impeachin’.

I'll second that.

28 posted on 04/26/2015 7:04:39 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When confronted with the homo-marriage insanity being imposed in his own home state, I found Walker’s response to be... unimpressive. To put it kindly.


29 posted on 04/26/2015 7:05:01 AM PDT by greene66
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To: txrangerette
By banning all but heterosexual marriage between one man and one woman

These are not "bans on gay marriage."

Stop playing the leftist propaganda game.

All states did was define marriage as between one man/one woman based on biblical, historical, and constitutional laws.

Homosexuals can get married....they just have to marry a member of the opposite sex.

30 posted on 04/26/2015 7:05:20 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (ANYBODY BUT FRICKING JEB AND HILLARY)
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To: ASA Vet; Jim Robinson; Cincinatus' Wife

Natural Born Citizen means citizen by birth and not by being naturalized.

Congress has the right to define these matters.

Under the relevant statute, Ted Cruz is a citizen of the United States by birth, by being born to a United States citizen who was working in Canada at the time but who was herself a U.S. citizen at birth, not naturalized, and the relevant statute did not require that both parents be natural born citizens of the United States, therefore his mother satisfied that requirement.

Nice of you to note Walker’s qualification status, however, please don’t muddy up the waters by implication that Ted Cruz doesn’t meet the necessary criteria.

Yes, he does.

If you don’t believe it, ask Jim Robinson, who has made it crystal clear.


31 posted on 04/26/2015 7:06:28 AM PDT by txrangerette (("...hold to the TRUTH; speak without fear". - Glenn Beck))
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To: greene66

Do tell?

What would you have done Gov. greene66?


32 posted on 04/26/2015 7:07:43 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Nullification. State the rogue federal judge has no say in Wisconsin’s law, and no say in what defines a married couple. Fight, dammit.


33 posted on 04/26/2015 7:14:17 AM PDT by greene66
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That might be news to all the people who voted for State Propositions that have been overturned by activist courts.

If it's news to them, that's because they are not learning it public schools, or in the media, or from those who are supposed to be representing them.

34 posted on 04/26/2015 7:18:40 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Constitution's preamble, which is its statement of purpose, is the supreme law of the land.)
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To: greene66
When confronted with the homo-marriage insanity being imposed in his own home state, I found Walker’s response to be... unimpressive. To put it kindly.

Absolutely.

35 posted on 04/26/2015 7:20:17 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The Constitution's preamble, which is its statement of purpose, is the supreme law of the land.)
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To: greene66

Gov. Walker is a fighter.

It’s laughable to suggest otherwise.


36 posted on 04/26/2015 7:24:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, but the question I still have is whether Walker is a fighter for “my” interests and “my” values, or just a fighter for the GOP moneyed class and Chamber-of-Commerce crowd?

That’s a question I consider unresolved at this point.


37 posted on 04/26/2015 7:44:14 AM PDT by greene66
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To: mrsmel

If you vote, you will be forced to chose ‘between the lessor of two evils’. There are no other choices on the ballot, ever.

The only man who wasn’t ‘the lessor of two evils’ left the earth a long time ago.


38 posted on 04/26/2015 7:56:42 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (The Gruber Revelations are proof that God is still smiling on America.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

That is true, but at some point the law of diminishing returns kicks in. It’s kicked in for me.


39 posted on 04/26/2015 8:00:42 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Jim Noble

>>The question is, “can states permit same-sex marriage?”

Marriage is an historically observable state-established mechanism for regulating sociobiological/reproductive competitiveness among competing cultures.

In that context, same-sex “marriage” has what effect?


40 posted on 04/26/2015 9:45:46 AM PDT by HLPhat (This space is intentionaly blank.)
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