Posted on 04/21/2015 4:10:39 PM PDT by presidio9
Edited on 04/21/2015 4:31:18 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
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Anyone who publicly proclaims their righteousness is usually not a good person.
And we are surprised that Poles might find that offensive?
From what I understood when visiting Auschwitz and Birkenau.....it was a requirement for all Polish students to visit.
Please expand.
“I don’t begrudge the Poles their sensitivity.”
Liar.
I’m going to get fried for this answer, but I pray that if push came to shove and I was asked to be complicit in the murder of my fellow Christians, I would have the strength to accept the suffering and my eventual death. Who can answer that ahead of time. I know some of you could, and bless you.
That's the number of non-Jewish Poles who died in the Holocaust.
We already knew that Richard Cohen was an ass. So is James Comey, apparently.
Sure, there were Poles who were complicit in Germany's crimes. Just like there were black people who owned slaves prior to the Civil War. At least in its initial stages, there were, no doubt, misguided Jews who willingly collaborated with the Nazis.
None of this means that they belong in the same sentence with the true perpetrators. The ones in power.
....Poles, she says, pictured themselves as either saviors or martyrs – but never collaborators. “It was difficult for the majority of Poles to accept the fact that there were these criminals among them, as in Jedwabne. There were even eminent historians who desperately looked for evidence to prove that it was the Germans who did the killing in Jedwabne. There was a psychological barrier that needed to be overcome, the belief that Germans can be cruel but not Poles. The positive result of this controversy was that lots of Poles faced this revelation and this gave stimulus to further research........In a survey conducted just before coming to the conference Sulek asked people, “Which groups have too much influence in Poland?” The respondents included politicians, business circles and the Catholic Church. Only 2 percent of those surveyed mentioned Jews. But when asked specifically to assess the scale of Jewish influence, 23 percent answered “too much.” “This experiment shows that sometimes it is enough to directly refer to the ‘Jewish matter’ to activate anti-Semitic thinking,” says Sulek. “However, there is room for moderate hope. Eight years ago, 43 percent said Jews had too much influence.”
-- from the thread Poles Confront the Dark Side [lifting the silence around anti-semitism in Poland]
Thanks for your Seven Polish Heroes post.
Hitler intended to eradicate Poland and replace the Poles with Germans. This would be his "lebensraum." Much of Poland was annexed by Germany, including Auschwitz. The rest of Poland was constituted as the General Government. The GG was a German colony run by Germans. Eventually, the Poles were to be eliminated. The deportations to the death camps were ordered directly by German officials. Were there some individual or low raking collaborators? Some. There were also many Poles who helped hide Jews and the Poles organized an active underground army that fought the Nazis.
Hungary was an ally of Germany providing troops on the Eastern Front and left to govern itself. A German instigated coup in early 1944 resulted in a change of government. Hitherto, Hungary had resisted deporting Jews. The new Hungarian government got with the Nazi program in a hurry, deporting over 400,000 Jews to Auschwitz in a few months. It was one of the most horrifying events of a horrific time. Unlike Romania and Bulgaria, the Hungarian government never turned on the Germans.
So, Mr. Cohen, like Mr. Comey, you need a history lesson. May I suggest a visit to the Holocaust Museum where you read all the exhibited material?
Glad that you appreciated it.
I would add to that list Karol Józef Wojtyła, except for the fact that the world already knows him of course!
Is every member of the Obama administration insane?
My father, who was Polish, who lost his mother, father and brother in the war, was always infuriated when reporters would refer to "Polish death camps."
For heavens sake, they were German, Nazi death camps located in Poland.
God help us.
"Poland" had no death camps, though the Nazi did build several of their own on formerly Polish territory.
What a piece of work!
They were scrubbing the Internet of the name of Devon Spurgeon & her connection to Richard Cohen a few years ago.
Wonder if the job is complete? I'll have to check...
Nope! Some of the articles have multiplied!
I lived with a family in Poland for a week. They showed me framed picture after framed picture of family members slaughtered by the Russians or the Nazi’s. WWII was quite personal and real to the Poles based on where they are located. So they possessed an education I will never have on WWII and not attainable by simply visiting a museum (not that there is anything wrong with that)
Henryk Slawik goes up on my Pantheon with Raoul Wallenberg...
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