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Can Gays Turn Straight? What the Evidence Says About “Ex-Gay” Therapy.
Slate ^ | April 20, 2015 | Nathaniel Frank

Posted on 04/20/2015 3:12:57 PM PDT by EveningStar

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To: HiTech RedNeck
I guess you never really knew any.

Yeah, I worked with one, knew several others, had a cousin...all died.

Ask one, if he's honest he'll confirm what I've said.

61 posted on 04/20/2015 4:11:25 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

I don’t know any male homosexuals.


62 posted on 04/20/2015 4:12:23 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

But of course none of them told you what you claim, because none of them were “honest” ??

They’re miserable, utterly miserable, trying to cover it up with some fleeting thrills.


63 posted on 04/20/2015 4:14:00 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: trisham

Neither do I anymore, but then I don’t hang out with democRATs much.


64 posted on 04/20/2015 4:15:42 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Good. You’re on the road to redemption.


65 posted on 04/20/2015 4:17:05 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I don’t know if they’re miserable or not, certainly not happy to have an early death sentence, but one thing for sure...they all had a shrink.


66 posted on 04/20/2015 4:17:57 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

You don’t know if they are miserable, but they all had a shrink....

Oh lol. The richest joke I heard all day.


67 posted on 04/20/2015 4:18:58 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: trisham
You’re on the road to redemption.

From what?

This place is crawling with queers and moonbats...they creep up here from the cities. Markedly identifiable.

68 posted on 04/20/2015 4:21:08 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I agree that forcing people into some sort of program is not going to be successful. Some people have been through the programs and have benefited.

That’s about all that can be said. As another poster said, this is more or less like any other group therapy. The success rates on alcohol, drugs, and other maladies aren’t 100% or anywhere near it. Does the psychiatric association seek to do away with those too?


69 posted on 04/20/2015 4:23:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: EveningStar

There is little evidence any psychotherapy does anything.


70 posted on 04/20/2015 4:28:08 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: EveningStar
Answer this: Ask a homosexual if a straight can be turned homosexual. I'll bet they say "yes"...or they'll say that the straight was a repressed homosexual?

If they say "no" then they're forced to admit that the idea of homosexual sex is so unappealing that no amount of exposure or sex can make a straight a homosexual. That's essentially what they're saying about straight sex after all. That it's so abhorrent to them that no amount of exposure or sex can turn them straight.

71 posted on 04/20/2015 4:28:14 PM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: HiTech RedNeck

You can be confused without being miserable.

Those grinning trannies, camping it up in the packer-pride parades don’t look like they’re suffering too much...they’re big attention whores....(at the very least)

Are smokers miserable? Just like fags they LOVE their butts. Most of them, if they really wanted to quit....already would have.


72 posted on 04/20/2015 4:28:23 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: EveningStar

It seems to me ... if gays REALLY liked men, they wouldn’t be attracted to men trying their hardest to act like women.


73 posted on 04/20/2015 4:28:41 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: EveningStar

Like any disorder, addiction etc of course some people can change. Thet just need to make the choice and have the will. They made a choice to begin with- acting on a desire, they can make choice later, not acting on it.........


74 posted on 04/20/2015 4:30:15 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
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To: EveningStar

Curious thing this question. Can someone who is a homosexual become a heterosexual.

Turn it around. No one ever does, but we see it every day. People living their lives normally - heterosexually - marrying, having and raising children all of a sudden deciding “hey, I’m a homosexual. I was born this way.”

Why is it such a threat to the homoleftists that someone might defect from their ranks? Or can and do?

Because sexual behavior is a choice.

It’s that simple.


75 posted on 04/20/2015 5:12:44 PM PDT by normbal (normbal. somewhere in socialist occupied America)
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To: EveningStar

Discredited by the APA....the same APA that took homosexuality off the list of mental illnesses due to pressure from queers.

Yeah, okay.


76 posted on 04/20/2015 5:14:52 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office.")
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To: ro_dreaming
How about abortion of a gay baby? Is That ok
Years ago there was an article in Time about genetic science that stated that personality traits may one day be determined by examining fetal DNA. specifically, this article mentioned predispositions toward anti-social/criminal behavior and homosexuality as examples. If there really is such a thing as a "gay" gene or a "mean" gene all the pontificating and hand wringing from the ADA, CDC WHO, etc about "medical ethics" will not prevent the cat from being let out of the bag. Then it would only be a matter of time before a woman exercises her "right to choose" an abortion only because her doc told her the "unviable tissue mass" growing inside her may turn out to be gay. Or a serial killer. Or both (Jeffry Dahmer, John Wayne Gacy, etc). Then see how fast pro-choicers become pro LIFERS.
77 posted on 04/20/2015 5:33:53 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: EveningStar

I wonder what the ex-lesbian wife of mayor DeBlasio would think?


78 posted on 04/20/2015 5:45:17 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Steve_Seattle

I’ve also seen people suddenly decide they aren’t gay any more. 15 years...done. No particular reason anyone can tell.


79 posted on 04/20/2015 5:58:47 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Jewbacca

There is considerable evidence that psychotherapy conditions people to be addicted to psychotherapy.


80 posted on 04/20/2015 6:07:13 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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