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Poll: Is it time to retire Junipero Serra's statue?
Los Angeles Times ^ | April 14, 2015 | Jon Healey

Posted on 04/19/2015 5:06:33 PM PDT by EveningStar

... Statues of ... historical figures stand in the U.S. Capitol's National Statuary Hall, where each state has two representatives cast in bronze or marble ...

[Father Junipero] Serra could be the first and only actual saint in Statuary Hall -- Pope Francis recently announced plans to canonize him -- yet he's also a polarizing figure. Is it time to send Serra to the sidelines (or more accurately, move his statue to the California Capitol grounds)? ...

Take our pointedly unreliable poll, leave a comment or do both! ...

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; canonization; juniperoserra; losangelesslimes; losangelestimes; mission; missions; nationalstatuaryhall; poll; popefrancis; romancatholicism; saint; sallyride; serra; statuaryhall; statue; uscapitol
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To: EveningStar

I’m so very glad there are no other serious problems in our country that we have time and energy to expend on this.


21 posted on 04/19/2015 6:09:51 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard the Third: "I should like to drive away not only the Turks (moslims) but all my foes.")
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Time to retire *this* abomination.

22 posted on 04/19/2015 6:12:41 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: martin_fierro
Yes. Even as a kid I hated it.

A real eyesore on one of the most beautiful stretches of road in the country.

23 posted on 04/19/2015 6:15:09 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Salvation

There some in North Cali poltics think that Father Serra being Cathoic friar is racist because he brought Chritnisty to Native Americans in cali


24 posted on 04/19/2015 6:18:33 PM PDT by SevenofNine (We are Freepers, all your media bases belong to us ,resistance is futile)
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To: DoughtyOne

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25 posted on 04/19/2015 6:21:08 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!!!)
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To: doorgunner69

I hadn’t realized that, or if I ever knew it I had forgotten.

Now it makes sense. LOL

When will it ever end?

That would leave Reagan there with a Lesbian. The homosexuals would be ecstatic over that.


26 posted on 04/19/2015 6:22:18 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: cicero2k

The “mistreatment” of the Indians by the missionaries is an oft regurgitated sob story.

As for Sally Ride, look her up. She was quite accomplished.


27 posted on 04/19/2015 6:23:33 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: BunnySlippers

LOL, oh please...

= :^)


28 posted on 04/19/2015 6:29:20 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The question, Jeb Bush? The answer: NO! Rove, is a devious propagandist & enemy of Conservatives!)
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To: DoughtyOne
Sally may have used that route to the City on occasion. Just because she wasn't the first doesn't mean she shouldn't be honored for it.

Personally, if it weren't for Ride's sexual preferences I doubt the legislature would've given her a second thought. But thats my opinion.

29 posted on 04/19/2015 6:33:06 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: doorgunner69; DoughtyOne; All

Sally Ride was a very private person. Her lesbian relationship did not become publicly known until after her death.


30 posted on 04/19/2015 6:37:39 PM PDT by EveningStar
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31 posted on 04/19/2015 6:45:09 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Junipero Serra gives you so much angst and he supposedly decimated the Indian tribes of California, it seems knocking down the missions would be an excellent idea as well.

They stand on valuable land which can be reused for other things.


32 posted on 04/19/2015 6:45:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Vendome

He doesn’t give *me* any angst. I voted “No” on the poll.


33 posted on 04/19/2015 6:48:09 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: martin_fierro

YOU .. make the call!!


34 posted on 04/19/2015 6:59:23 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Salvation; CondorFlight; artichokegrower; cld51860; madprof98; Forward the Light Brigade; ...
Pathetic, the poll is running at 54% against Serra.

FReepers, come to the rescue!

35 posted on 04/19/2015 6:59:53 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Why, to think of it, we're in the same tale still! It's still going!" - Samwise Gamgee)
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To: skeeter; doorgunner69; DoughtyOne; All
Personally, if it weren't for Ride's sexual preferences I doubt the legislature would've given her a second thought. But thats my opinion.

I did some more checking.

Sen. Ricardo Lara, D-Bell Gardens, the author of the proposal, said the addition of Ride’s likeness at the U.S. Capitol would build on California’s tradition of breaking from convention. That’s because Ride would be the first acknowledged gay or lesbian person with a statue in the collection. She would also be the first woman from California enshrined in the hall.

“In California, we’re visionaries. We lead. Why not acknowledge the contribution of a woman?” Lara, who is Catholic and openly gay, said on the floor. “We respect the past. But we are not bound by it.”

Source

Ride was very private about her personal life. She was not a gay activist. Her sexual orientation was not publicly revealed until after her death.

BTW, unlike a lot of folks here, I don't hate homosexuals.

36 posted on 04/19/2015 7:35:31 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: DoughtyOne
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37 posted on 04/19/2015 7:47:00 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!!!)
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To: EveningStar

A lot of gays are like that. They are not swishy or bull dykes.

My brother was gay and looked and some normally. He spent his time on his stupids and on his job. Most people never knew he was gay.

I don’t hate them either. I wonder how long ...


38 posted on 04/19/2015 7:50:44 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I Love Bull Markets!!!)
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To: EveningStar
BTW, unlike a lot of folks here, I don't hate homosexuals.

BTW: What if they're pederasts?

39 posted on 04/19/2015 7:53:19 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: EveningStar
Too bad you are incapable of discerning disgust and refusal to submit to the homosexual agenda from "hate".

Admitting homosexuals are among us is not an issue, being forced into accepting that what they do as "normal" is very much an issue.

40 posted on 04/19/2015 7:57:25 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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