Posted on 04/19/2015 11:04:19 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
The Obama administration is unfairly blocking tens of thousands of military veterans from owning guns, a Republican senator is charging.
The FBI’s National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) is filled with military veterans who are essentially banned from owning guns, even though they may not be a danger to society, Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) wrote this week in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder.
The gun ban "effectively voids their Second Amendment rights,” Grassley said.
At issue is whether these veterans are suffering from mental illnesses.
According to a 2013 Senate report, the Department of Veteran Affairs is responsible for reporting more than 143,000 beneficiaries, including about 83,000 veterans, to the “mental defective” category of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System.
Any federal agency can report people to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System, but the VA's recommendations account for about 99 percent of the people who are listed in the mental defective category.
Being listed blocks veterans from purchasing guns.
However, Grassley claims many of these veterans should not be precluded from owning guns. . .
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
I take the generally unpopular view here that I don’t have any problem about restricting firearms to someone digging into my wallet for PTSD benefits. You want a gun, get out of my wallet. If you are too messed up mentally to function on your own dime, you are probably too messed up mentally to be carrying.
Veterans are the last people that the DOJ and our Goverment wants to have guns............
DOJ WANTED TO SCAN LICENSE PLATES OF GUN SHOW ATTENDEES
Last week the ACLU released information about the Department of Justice tracking the license plates of millions of cars belonging to American citizens. As if that wasn’t alarming enough, documents obtained by the organization through a Freedom of Information Act request show officials from the Drug Enforcement Agency and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms were particularly interested in going to gun shows and scanning the license plates of cars in the parking lot for tracking purposes. . .
Can they ever get off the PTSD list?
I don’t give communists any opportunity to deny anyone their gun rights. They will morph that into denying everybody.
“At issue is whether these veterans are suffering from mental illnesses. “
Yeh they all have Patriot’s Syndrome.
Veterans ping.
But that same veteran can run for political office....
When did you served? And what sort of duty did you perform?
The Standard used by the VA is probably an appropriate one.
That standard is: If we have to appoint somebody to manage you benefit check on your behalf, you cannot own a weapon.
HOWEVER, there are many thousands on VA disability for PTSD that do not reach this threshold, and I'd like to see you stand before them and make the case they would not be allowed to own a weapon because they are "in your wallet".
Did you ever stop to think that miniscule portion of your taxes that go toward that check might be a small price to pay for your liberty?
Real question: does a VA diagnosis of positive for PTSD put a veteran on the NCIS list?
One of my fellow Vietnam vets urged me to put in for PTSD & how to answer the questions a certain way, etc. I said nothing doing, I’m fine & anyway that wouldn’t be honest.
The last time I enlisted, I was just a cook, and served backfill both CONUS and O-CONUS. I was a cook because I had lost a lot of my hearing from guns and jet engines during my first enlistment and my last.
Does that lack of pointy spear experience in my last enlistment mean it doesn't matter about whether my right to keep and bear arms is infringed?
I despise contests about who had the worst service, etc.. Every vet that helps me at the VA, and every vet I help has served, and most of them volunteered for it. I don't care what branch or where they served.
/johnny
Have these veterans been adjudicated as a mental defective in a court of law, or committed to a mental institution? If not, then there is no legal basis to prohibit these individuals.
Depending on the degree of non functionality...I would agree. However...now that obamacare centralizes medical records...any time someone sees their doctor for depression like symptoms... I am sure a flag goes up somewhere
You take the uneducated view that PTSD is a permanent condition that can not be cured over time.
Do not expect to vomit out that stupid drivel unchallenged.
What other indefensible crap would you like to declare today?
Spew it all out.
This guy apparently thinks that anyone diagnosed as PTSD is either a faker trying to scam some benefits, or is a raging nut case who should be denied his Constitutional Rights because he is receiving medical care that he earned by serving this country.
I asked him because I was curious if he might be ignorant about the medical facts of PTSD and the experiences that some veterans face, or if he is just an idiot. i wouldn’t want to call someone an idiot without a few more facts.
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