I take the generally unpopular view here that I don’t have any problem about restricting firearms to someone digging into my wallet for PTSD benefits. You want a gun, get out of my wallet. If you are too messed up mentally to function on your own dime, you are probably too messed up mentally to be carrying.
Can they ever get off the PTSD list?
I don’t give communists any opportunity to deny anyone their gun rights. They will morph that into denying everybody.
When did you served? And what sort of duty did you perform?
The Standard used by the VA is probably an appropriate one.
That standard is: If we have to appoint somebody to manage you benefit check on your behalf, you cannot own a weapon.
HOWEVER, there are many thousands on VA disability for PTSD that do not reach this threshold, and I'd like to see you stand before them and make the case they would not be allowed to own a weapon because they are "in your wallet".
Did you ever stop to think that miniscule portion of your taxes that go toward that check might be a small price to pay for your liberty?
Depending on the degree of non functionality...I would agree. However...now that obamacare centralizes medical records...any time someone sees their doctor for depression like symptoms... I am sure a flag goes up somewhere
You take the uneducated view that PTSD is a permanent condition that can not be cured over time.
Do not expect to vomit out that stupid drivel unchallenged.
What other indefensible crap would you like to declare today?
Spew it all out.
That’s far less a problem.
What is a problem is that it is not VA doctors that are diagnosing a veterans as having mental health problems, so they should be prohibited from having guns. Instead, it is VA *bureaucrats* who are banning guns based on a weird reason.
A medical/legal power of attorney. A veteran *temporarily* transfers his M/LPOA to a family member because he is to have major surgery, in case something goes wrong, then after he pulls through his surgery and gets better, he cancels the transfer.
The VA bureaucrats do not care. They *interpret* this as to meaning that the veterans was *mentally incapacitated*, so should have his guns taken away. “Because once is forever.”
This is why it is such a sky high number of veterans have been affected by this.
Ironically, PTSD cases are some of those *least* likely to misuse firearms. Often they are firearms averse. This is why Chris Kyle was helping veterans at a shooting range, to get them comfortable with having and using guns again.
First, I am a disabled veteran who is 100% service connected. I am not a war time veteran but I served and I almost died while training. My MOS was going to be ASW and I was slated to go on to become a RSS. Through no fault of my own while simulating a P3 flight and observing Hypoxia (the Navy’s only free high) my Oxygen mask didn’t fit right and I ended up with Decompression Sickness Type 2. I spent 13 hours in a hyperbaric chamber and as a result came out of that with O2 toxicity and luckily my paralysis was temporary. I had damage to my cranial nerve and other damage done to me. I cannot fly commercially nor can I ever go scuba diving in my life. I can never finish my private pilot’s license I was working on before going into the military. My service connection comes from training in the line of duty not from some car accident on a weekend pass or something stupid I did. Btw RSS is two steps down from SEAL training although the intensity gap is huge. I was in Pensacola at the time Smurfing was allowed in RSS school. Also had I not been medically discharged, my time in would have included part of the first gulf war.
I have come to despise the VA for various reasons, the two majors one, they gave me diabetes type 2 and continue to deny a pill can do that and second I almost died had I followed the ER doctor’s instructions to come back on Monday after having a 104.9 degree fever and a severe abcess that was infected.
I did not ask to be disabled. I did not want to have the bends. It happened though and it was a risk I was willing to take. When I signed on the dotted line and later rose my hand to swear to give my life to the defense of this country and for you to sit there and say what you can say to me freely, I did so knowing that at some point in my career whilst in the Navy, I could lose my life at any time. I gladly take that risk for you and for those who cannot.
If I am digging into your wallet, know this, it took me 22 years to get my bachelor’s degree because I cannot get financial aid because I need a note from my doctor saying I can perform after I graduate. The VA has repeatedly said that they will not do that because even though I have seen some doctor’s for more than 5 years, they still did not know me. Then upon completion of my degree, I have not been able to find a job because the recruiters always ask why haven’t you worked. I tell them because I am disabled veteran and had a hard time getting money for school. Recruiters have hung up on me for saying the D word. They have also never called me back. I had one recruiter accuse me of sitting on my behind and just collecting the check every month.
So yes I take great offense to the phrasing that you use that I am digging into your wallet to collect a check when I have done everything in my power to return to becoming a productive member of society. One other thing I worked so many different jobs before I got my 100%. I did not get it right off the bat. At one point I would wake up at 5PM on Tuesday and not go to bed until Saturday morning around 5AM. I had three jobs and went to full time school. I made the dean’s list that semester.
Mentally ill is painting a broad brush across a lot of illnesses and is stereotyping all those with mental illness. If I said everyone who was sick could not have a gun then that means if you had ever had a cold in your life you would not be able to own a gun. Not all mental illnesses are the same nor are they severe. Someone who has ADD has a mental illness. Someone who has Alzheimer’s has a mental illness. Someone who has been raped might possibly have a mental illness after they were raped. Someone who has survived a plane crash might have a mental illness after. A person been consistently bullied on the internet might acquire a mental illness.
So here is an idea why don’t you take your money put it back in your wallet because this veteran doesn’t need a handout from the government. Instead give me a paying job so I can become a productive member of society. Oh and I would also like to own a 9mm so I can defend myself as I have been shooting guns since I was 11 years old but can’t own one now that I have had my accident while on active duty while serving in the United States Navy training to become a ASW/RSS in Pensacola Florida.
I take the view that every man has the right to bear arms. Our God-given rights are not purchased from the government.
I have a BIG problem with an individual's unalienable right being denied arbitrarily by a bureaucrat without due process in a court of law.
Ah, so the Second Amendment is conditional on receipt of government benefits. Your concern seems to be primarily that they are 'in your wallet'.
Well then. You have just banned Welfare, Medicaid, Medicare, Social Security, and maybe even Obamacare recipients with your criteria.
Democrats will love your view.